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  • 2A_Tom

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    The House cannot pass legislation by itself, but there is a "just do something" attitude in Washington.

    The legislation I can see going through and getting signed is a National Red Flag law.
     

    KLB

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    The House cannot pass legislation by itself, but there is a "just do something" attitude in Washington.

    The legislation I can see going through and getting signed is a National Red Flag law.
    Sounds like the NRA will support that. Maybe they will work to make it suck less than it might otherwise.
     

    jamil

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    It actually is pretty weak. Basically they say they are pushing for amnesty for those that already own them.

    The last paragraph has the obligatory fear mongering too.


    I didn't realize that the House could pass laws on their own now.

    That is the thing that has always turned me off about the GOA too. They are even worse with the fear mongering and hyperbole than the NRA.
    This is how they can get away with just about anything just to the right of the anti-gun nutters. It’s similar to someone like Donald Trump becoming acceptable as president. The alternative is completely unacceptable as opposed to being just short of completely unacceptable.
     

    worddoer

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    It actually is pretty weak. Basically they say they are pushing for amnesty for those that already own them.

    The last paragraph has the obligatory fear mongering too.


    I didn't realize that the House could pass laws on their own now.

    That is the thing that has always turned me off about the GOA too. They are even worse with the fear mongering and hyperbole than the NRA.

    Sounds to me like they are just pulling a good old George W. Bush play.....

    “We’ve abandoned 2nd Amendment principles to save 2nd Amendment principles”

    Didn't make much sense in 2008. It doesn't now either. This one never seems to get better with age.
     

    thompal

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    Let's start with the NRA was not involved in legislative action until 1975 so in essence they haven't been at it that long, without the NRA millions would not have attended there classes that are available, state and national shoots most likely would not be held or scored nationality. The NRA is so much more than filing law suits and buying drinks on Capitol Hill.
    Just imagine that no insurance companies offered range and club insurance? NRA offers not only that but grants to help clubs upgrade there range facilitys.
    NRA is so much more than most think, and I just touched on a few things they do.
    They are by far the best place to give your money to that is involved with the 2nd Amendment.

    I actually 100% support the NRA education, training, and competition efforts! They are the absolute best. I'd rather my money go to Eddie Eagle than a Washington lobbyist. Because Eddie Eagle is a wonderful program that has accomplished much, whereas the lobbyists are far less effective, and in many ways work against many of our rights, which has given the anti-rights crowd the impression that we will gleefully sacrifice some of our rights if they promise not to take specific other rights. This time.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Is that any different from blaming you for slavery?

    Yes. My point was if an organization existed long before the birth of it's current members, is it appropriate to lay blame on individuals who had nothing to do with something that happened decades before the current members joined.

    In WWII Army Air Forces bombers fire bombed Dresden, Germany and Tokyo, Japan killing more than the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I was in the USAF from 86-07 and had nothing to do with anything in WWII. I'm KellyinAvon, not Curtis LeMay.

    My point is we are where we are. Without a time machine there ain't a hell of a lot me or anybody else can do about what happened before. I am at the point in my life and close enough to 200 W Washington Street Indianapolis, IN 46204 that I can show up when the pro-2A side needs people to show up.

    I think this sums it up:

    [video=youtube;wTVDpOaTGsc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTVDpOaTGsc[/video]
     

    Clay Pigeon

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    I actually 100% support the NRA education, training, and competition efforts! They are the absolute best. I'd rather my money go to Eddie Eagle than a Washington lobbyist. Because Eddie Eagle is a wonderful program that has accomplished much, whereas the lobbyists are far less effective, and in many ways work against many of our rights, which has given the anti-rights crowd the impression that we will gleefully sacrifice some of our rights if they promise not to take specific other rights. This time.

    And I as thought there is only three branches of the Federal Government, And the NRA isn't part of the Judicial Branch.
     

    MRockwell

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    KellyinAvon

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    Dead Duck

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    The trace released their article a couple days ago. A long read, goes into the role the PR firm has played over the years.
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/n...ct-ackerman-mcqueen/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    I found the link from a post on TexasGunTalk. I found it informative, worth the time to read.



    Be careful where you get your info. They look to be very anti-gun to me and I didn't even dig deep.
    Thanks for reminding me to pay my NRA dues this month. My daughters life memberships are almost paid off.

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    Spear Dane

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    What does it take to get someone under the age of ten thousand on that board? :xmad: Buncha crap. Lifetime members are just as stupid in their choices as the general voting public.
     

    Dean C.

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    What does it take to get someone under the age of ten thousand on that board? :xmad: Buncha crap. Lifetime members are just as stupid in their choices as the general voting public.

    What makes you think it was an honest election? Back in the 1990's Ackerman McQueen errr I mean The NRA made is basically I possible to remove Wayne and other high ranking members. Less than 10% of the yearly income goes to firearm education and safety and about 3% goes to actually fighting legislation. The NRA is not here to protect our rights they are here to get filthy rich and sell an image plain and simple.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...secrecy-self-dealing-and-greed-at-the-nra/amp
     
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