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    T.Lex

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    Ivanka Trump plans to make women's issues her primary focus in likely DC move, with pay equity chief among them

    Ivanka Trump is an unelected progressive that buys into the wage gap myth, apparently? She really shouldn't be anywhere near this administration in any manner that could influence policy.

    See, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. She is more like an "only Nixon can go to China" operative. She can say the things that will placate progressive women, but doesn't really have anything more than the president's ear.

    I think she's every bit smart enough to move the leftist chess pieces in ways that further more conservative values.
     

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    Ivanka Trump plans to make women's issues her primary focus in likely DC move, with pay equity chief among them

    Ivanka Trump is an unelected progressive that buys into the wage gap myth, apparently? She really shouldn't be anywhere near this administration in any manner that could influence policy.

    Wait. I thought climate change was her primary focus. Did that change? So did her meeting with Al Gore make her decide to find another progressive issue on which to primarily focus?
     

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    See, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. She is more like an "only Nixon can go to China" operative. She can say the things that will placate progressive women, but doesn't really have anything more than the president's ear.

    I think she's every bit smart enough to move the leftist chess pieces in ways that further more conservative values.

    I heard her campaign speech. I am mostly certain that it was not simply to signal to women that it's safe to vote for her Dad. I think she actually believes in that ****.
     

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    See, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. She is more like an "only Nixon can go to China" operative. She can say the things that will placate progressive women, but doesn't really have anything more than the president's ear.

    I think she's every bit smart enough to move the leftist chess pieces in ways that further more conservative values.

    I considered that she may be acting as a "maybe they aren't so bad" piece of the larger puzzle for the Left to look at. Only matters if nothing substantive comes out of it.

    Choosing two causes like AGW and sexism... I'm really tired of hearing about those.

    I heard her campaign speech. I am mostly certain that it was not simply to signal to women that it's safe to vote for her Dad. I think she actually believes in that ****.


    And this is what I'm concerned about. From what I've heard about her... it likely isn't an act.
     

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    See, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. She is more like an "only Nixon can go to China" operative. She can say the things that will placate progressive women, but doesn't really have anything more than the president's ear.

    I think she's every bit smart enough to move the leftist chess pieces in ways that further more conservative values.

    I disagree with this, it assumes she or Trump hold any sort of Conservative values. Trump is in no way an ideological conservative, I don't see him having any problem making progressive moves on any of Ivanka's issues. Is there any reason Trump wouldn't take action to address perceived woman's inequality or climate change?
     

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    Is Trump an ideologue or iconoclast? I think it's obvious: iconoclast. Conservatives make the mistake of assuming Trump will be a standard-bearer.
     

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    I disagree with this, it assumes she or Trump hold any sort of Conservative values.
    Oh wait. I didn't mean to suggest Trump himself is a conservative he is not.

    I believe Ivanka is more conservative than DJT is, ideologically. Probably less conservative than most of us, but more conservative than east coast Dems. But, she is "safe" to them.
     

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    Is Trump an ideologue or iconoclast? I think it's obvious: iconoclast. Conservatives make the mistake of assuming Trump will be a standard-bearer.

    I think that's the wrong dichotomy. He's neither. I mean, you could easily call Obama the iconoclast.

    But you're right that Trump's not a conservative standard bearer. Most ardent Trumpers seem to be giving up conservatism anyway. So maybe pragmatic populism is the new standard, and for that Trump is an ideal standard bearer, as long as what Trump thinks he should do doesn't cause the faithful too much discomfort.
     

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    Here's another opinion on Puzder

    Trump Labor Secretary Immigration | National Review

    Trump’s pick for Labor secretary is perhaps the worst person imaginable for that role

    Usually, lines like that mean Trump did something good... but this is coming from a Conservative-minded person. The points he makes are about Puzder's views on immigration and amnesty.

    He is one of the nation’s most outspoken business voices for Gang of Eight-style immigration policies. He didn’t just sign an open letter once as a favor to a friend; he’s been a high-profile champion of amnesty and huge increases in immigration and guestworkers.

    Ah well. Not everything good comes without some bad.
     

    T.Lex

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    See, this is the kind of thing that would've gotten more support from me.

    This is a business guy that understands the dollars involved with immigration - legal and illegal - so has a better perspective on what is realistic and what is not.

    It is not, and for our lifetimes has not been, possible to deport all illegal immigrants. Accepting that fact then also requires a recognition that making citizens of at least some portion of them is reasonable.
     

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    Here's another opinion on Puzder

    Trump Labor Secretary Immigration | National Review



    Usually, lines like that mean Trump did something good... but this is coming from a Conservative-minded person. The points he makes are about Puzder's views on immigration and amnesty.



    Ah well. Not everything good comes without some bad.

    It's okay. It's all part of Trump's master plan. Because Trump is a genius and can't do anything wrong. I believe he will be the best president ever. In fact, thinking about how great he'll make america again, I think I need a kleenex.
     

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    See, this is the kind of thing that would've gotten more support from me.

    This is a business guy that understands the dollars involved with immigration - legal and illegal - so has a better perspective on what is realistic and what is not.

    It is not, and for our lifetimes has not been, possible to deport all illegal immigrants. Accepting that fact then also requires a recognition that making citizens of at least some portion of them is reasonable.

    See. You're not fooling me. I can see that you're turing into a Trumper. You'll be converted. I just know it.
     

    T.Lex

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    See. You're not fooling me. I can see that you're turing into a Trumper. You'll be converted. I just know it.

    Hey, if he keeps not following through on all the b.s. promises he made in his campaign, it could happen. :D

    Except Obamacare. He's gotta do something about that. Sooner rather than later.
     
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