The SB 101 (Religious Freedom Restoration) Thread

[miguel]

This really is a panic.

No, THIS is a panic.

[video=youtube;wMykYSQaG_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMykYSQaG_c[/video]

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Even the Eiteljorg Museum has gotten on the bandwagon. Just got their "We Welcome All" email. Here's a little snippet of what they're using to prove that they welcome all...

"Cultural diversity enriches our world and is an important part of the Eiteljorg Museum's mission. For this reason, we adopted an official diversity statement more than a decade ago. Exhibitions like Blake Little: Photographs from the Gay Rodeo and our ongoing Out West programming are illustrative of our effort to introduce guests to the many peoples who are a part of Western and Native art, history and cultures. The museum has always been, and will continue to be, open and welcoming to all."

Can't wait for their Westboro Baptist Church or KKK exhibits.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You know, the more I think about these governors of other states now "boycotting" travel to Indiana, the more I think we should pursue a nuclear weapon. I mean look at all the sympathy the liberals have for Iran. They want to drop sanctions against them. I figure declaring that we are going to pursue a nuclear weapon probably wouldn't have drawn near the outrage as this bill.

 

[miguel]

Dear Arkansas,

This is why sad banana is more sad: Arkansas follows Indiana into 'religious freedom' fight (+video) - CSMonitor.com

 

[Big Guy]

Good article. I really don't understand the basis for the outcry against this law other than fear and ignorance. Equality should be a good thing, but seems as if some people will never be satisfied with equality, but insist on domination, oppression, and suppression. For a generation that prides itself on tolerance, we must be THE most INTOLERANT generation of Americans that has ever lived. Why the need to force someone to participate in something that they don't want to have any part of and can not accept? Does anyone claim a "right" to order a ham sandwich from a Jewish Delicatessen? Of course not. Christian participation in a homosexual wedding, whether by virtue of baking a cake, providing photographer services, renting the facility, musicians, etc., is just as ridiculous.

You nailed it!!!!!!!!!!I agree totally with you!

 

[buckwacker]

Not at all. If you want an example of using the law against GLBTs, you'll have to wait longer than 5 days after signing. But I have no doubt that it will be used against them.

Your turn: do you really think it won't be used against them?

So, since anti-discrimination laws providing "special" protections to the LBGT crowd have been used against Christians, I suppose you should oppose those as well...hmmmm?

 

[Lowe0]

So, since anti-discrimination laws providing "special" protections to the LBGT crowd have been used against Christians, I suppose you should oppose those as well...hmmmm?

You guys are 73% of the country, 90% of Congress, and have the state legislature making laws on your behalf. You'll excuse me if I don't have a ton of sympathy for your plight.

 

[Denny347]

Can't wait for their Westboro Baptist Church or KKK exhibits.

Westboro has given notice that they will be here in support of the law. My unit deals with this stuff so we will likely be following them around all day. Not sure which day they will be here but I'm detailed to Final Four all day Saturday so we'll see.

 

[level.eleven]

Westboro has given notice that they will be here in support of the law. My unit deals with this stuff so we will likely be following them around all day. Not sure which day they will be here but I'm detailed to Final Four all day Saturday so we'll see.

Good for them. They are true believers. You can't fault them.

 

[Dead Duck]

Good for them. They are true believers. You can't fault them.

True Believers of What?

 

[buckwacker]

You guys are 73% of the country, 90% of Congress, and have the state legislature making laws on your behalf. You'll excuse me if I don't have a ton of sympathy for your plight.

Who is this "you guys" you refer to?

 

[buckwacker]

You guys are 73% of the country, 90% of Congress, and have the state legislature making laws on your behalf. You'll excuse me if I don't have a ton of sympathy for your plight.

Who is this "you guys" you refer to?

And also, do you support laws that discriminate against white people, since they are the majority of the country and Congress? No sympathy for them, right?

 

[Lowe0]

And also, do you support laws that discriminate against white people, since they are the majority of the country and Congress? No sympathy for them, right?

You guys would be Christians. And I have enough advantages as a straight white male already that I don't really worry myself with whether someone else is getting an advantage from the law that I don't - for example, affirmative action, often called reverse discrimination, isn't something I have an objection to.

 

[buckwacker]

You guys would be Christians. And I have enough advantages as a straight white male already that I don't really worry myself with whether someone else is getting an advantage from the law that I don't - for example, affirmative action, often called reverse discrimination, isn't something I have an objection to.

Do I know you? I don't think you know me well enough to lump me into any group, but I'm sure that wont stop you from making wild assertions. So all people should be treated equally, except the people you think should be treated more equally. Yes, that makes fantastic sense.

 

[IndyGal65]

You are asking what good comes from this bill if a person is gay?
It's a bill. This bill doesn't care if you're gay. Why would it?



On that note - I just changed to a new dog food last week. What possible upside is there for GLBTs?
See - It doesn't make any since. Does it......

I hope it's Blue Buffalo.

 

[dusty88]

Y for example, affirmative action, often called reverse discrimination, isn't something I have an objection to.

That's not equality under the law.

Equality under the law isn't just about "fairness". It's about morality and liberty.

It also allows for a logical metric when weighing laws and policy: preserve liberty, and allow no direct harm from one person to another.

 

[miguel]

Nobody will ever be punished for being Christian, especially a pastor. Nope, no way, no how: Gays Want Naval Chaplain Fired, Congress Responds - Breitbart

 

[Lowe0]

That's not equality under the law.

Equality under the law isn't just about "fairness". It's about morality and liberty.

It also allows for a logical metric when weighing laws and policy: preserve liberty, and allow no direct harm from one person to another.

If I trusted the people that brought us this law not to use it to do harm, then your explanation would be enough for me. But, I don't.

 

[dusty88]

If I trusted the people that brought us this law not to use it to do harm, then your explanation would be enough for me. But, I don't.

If the law is harmful, that's one thing. If we are operating outside the law and "trusting" men, then the laws are pointless anyway. (and the way our constitution has been trashed, we may be at that point)

I wasn't justifying this law, btw, merely addressing your statement about reverse discrimination.

It's a twisted web to discuss support for this law (imo) because you shouldn't need religion as a reason to make personal choices with your own business.



But as far as your trust of them "doing harm", I don't see how this law opens up any opportunities for harm that weren't already open in Indiana.

 

[miguel]

BAM! Post #1000.

Hers's an interesting rant: http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77985/religious-freedom-act-hypocrisy/#more-77985