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[Jludo]

Eliminate terrorists back to their source instead of leaving those alive who are just going to come back and attack us in a hand full of years anyway.

That's a despicable position to hold. Absolutely disgraceful. I'd never want anyone holding that view within miles of the nuclear football.

 

[Tombs]

That's a despicable position to hold. Absolutely disgraceful. I'd never want anyone holding that view within miles of the nuclear football.

War is ugly, either fight it to win or end up with another Iraq.

War is especially ugly when we decide to make it against an ideology. If you're fighting an ideology, everyone holding or perpetuating that ideology must be wiped out or it's just going to come back stronger than before. So don't fight the war, or fight it to win it.

 

[Jludo]

War is ugly, either fight it to win or end up with another Iraq.

War is especially ugly when we decide to make it against an ideology. If you're fighting an ideology, everyone holding or perpetuating that ideology must be wiped out or it's just going to come back stronger than before. So don't fight the war, or fight it to win it.

I can see how, throughout history, people have been convinced to do the most horrendous things, truly believing they were in the right.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Fox News: Trump's Megyn Kelly tweets 'beneath the dignity' of presidential candidate - POLITICO

 

[Tombs]

I can see how, throughout history, people have been convinced to do the most horrendous things, truly believing they were in the right.

If you think it's so bad then maybe war is not the answer?

There's a reason that war is a last resort. By attempting to make it civilized it has become, all too often, the first resort.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

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[Jludo]

If you think it's so bad then maybe war is not the answer?

There's a reason that war is a last resort. By attempting to make it civilized it has become, all too often, the first resort.

What you're advocating isn't war it's genocide, plain and simple.

 

[Kutnupe14]

What you're advocating isn't war it's genocide, plain and simple.

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Fox News: Trump's Megyn Kelly tweets 'beneath the dignity' of presidential candidate - POLITICO

He's single handedly destroyed her career, and has mad Fox start leaning left.

 

[Tombs]

What you're advocating isn't war it's genocide, plain and simple.

Well then, smart stuff, how do you suggest waging war on an ideology?

If your answer is no war, then I already covered that base.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

This should clear some things up:

Marco Rubio's Delegates: Where They'll Go

Got it now?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Tracking 99 polls

 

[Tombs]

Tracking 99 polls

Wait till he goes after hillary.

Patience my friend, patience.

 

[Dead Duck]

Tracking 99 polls

Dude.....Are you actually starting to believe this stuff you're posting?

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

Well then, smart stuff, how do you suggest waging war on an ideology?

If your answer is no war, then I already covered that base.

You do not wage war on an idealogy. That's the first mistake. In order to deal with asymetrical (sp?) warfare, you train more towards the special forces side of things as opposed to "massive land and sea invasion" kind of forces. You use human intel, and if someone raises a hand against you - you take THEM out. DECISIVELY, with force. And then you make it plain to the world that if they follow suit, they will be next. period. THERE IS NO NEED TO MURDER THEIR FAMILIES.

If every Tom, Dick, and Haji that was Muslim truly believed that Jihad against America was the way to Heaven, WE WOULD BE EXTINCT BY NOW. It's a numbers game. They have 1.2 Billion and we have 3-400 Million. Only a very tiny fraction of 1 percent actually believe that crap enough to put it into practice. Kill those who raise a hand against us and let the others who want to live peaceably do so. Make it clear that that is our ONLY interest - and a lot more folks will decide it's easier not to **** us off. People are smart like that.

For the record, from the Japan conversation (and I've lived there for a couple of years) - the Japanese by and large respect MacArthur for driving the decision for the Atomic Bomb. Why - because if he hadn't , it would have HAD to have gone to a land invasion. That would have been FAR WORSE for them as well as us. To the folks near Hiroshima and Nagasaki that had to live through the horrors of it - yes, it was bad for them. But if you talk to your average Yoshi on the street that has any grip of history, they almost all say that the alternative to the bomb was worse.

Side note - which bombing raid in Japan killed the most people and did the most damage? Hint - it wasn't Hiroshima nor Nagasaki. It was the Tokyo Firebombing Raid.

 

[BugI02]

Fox News: Trump's Megyn Kelly tweets 'beneath the dignity' of presidential candidate - POLITICO

Megyn Kelly is irrelevant. She's road kill in this election cycle and just hasn't realized it yet. She still acts like she's somebody but nobody (except maybe Ailes) is buying it

 

[Dead Duck]

You do not wage war on an idealogy. That's the first mistake. In order to deal with asymetrical (sp?) warfare, you train more towards the special forces side of things as opposed to "massive land and sea invasion" kind of forces. You use human intel, and if someone raises a hand against you - you take THEM out. DECISIVELY, with force. And then you make it plain to the world that if they follow suit, they will be next. period. THERE IS NO NEED TO MURDER THEIR FAMILIES.

If every Tom, Dick, and Haji that was Muslim truly believed that Jihad against America was the way to Heaven, WE WOULD BE EXTINCT BY NOW. It's a numbers game. They have 1.2 Billion and we have 3-400 Million. Only a very tiny fraction of 1 percent actually believe that crap enough to put it into practice. Kill those who raise a hand against us and let the others who want to live peaceably do so. Make it clear that that is our ONLY interest - and a lot more folks will decide it's easier not to **** us off. People are smart like that.

For the record, from the Japan conversation (and I've lived there for a couple of years) - the Japanese by and large respect MacArthur for driving the decision for the Atomic Bomb. Why - because if he hadn't , it would have HAD to have gone to a land invasion. That would have been FAR WORSE for them as well as us. To the folks near Hiroshima and Nagasaki that had to live through the horrors of it - yes, it was bad for them. But if you talk to your average Yoshi on the street that has any grip of history, they almost all say that the alternative to the bomb was worse.

Side note - which bombing raid in Japan killed the most people and did the most damage? Hint - it wasn't Hiroshima nor Nagasaki. It was the Tokyo Firebombing Raid.

We should have dropped more bombs so they would respect us more......In some cultures, that IS the only way......True.

 

[BugI02]

There WAS one more, and that one had Tokyo's name on it

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

We should have dropped more bombs so they would respect us more......In some cultures, that IS the only way......True.

No need to drop more than we did on Japan. Just had to hit them hard enough to topple their ruler and break the back of those in charge. We did that, and quite effectively.

And by "topple" I don't mean "overthrow". The emperor had to publicly admit defeat and that he wasn't a God. The leading generals (and most of the "inflamers" like Tojo) were killed or committed suicide. And people realized that getting back to work was in their own self interest. They did so - and quite successfully.

Now back to Tom, Dick, and Haji... The leaders, "inflamers" and those who would attack us - need to be taken out. But we do only what is needed. War is hell, and innocents WILL be harmed. But we have no need of doing so INTENTIONALLY.

 

[Tombs]

You do not wage war on an idealogy. That's the first mistake. In order to deal with asymetrical (sp?) warfare, you train more towards the special forces side of things as opposed to "massive land and sea invasion" kind of forces. You use human intel, and if someone raises a hand against you - you take THEM out. DECISIVELY, with force. And then you make it plain to the world that if they follow suit, they will be next. period. THERE IS NO NEED TO MURDER THEIR FAMILIES.

If every Tom, Dick, and Haji that was Muslim truly believed that Jihad against America was the way to Heaven, WE WOULD BE EXTINCT BY NOW. It's a numbers game. They have 1.2 Billion and we have 3-400 Million. Only a very tiny fraction of 1 percent actually believe that crap enough to put it into practice. Kill those who raise a hand against us and let the others who want to live peaceably do so. Make it clear that that is our ONLY interest - and a lot more folks will decide it's easier not to **** us off. People are smart like that.

For the record, from the Japan conversation (and I've lived there for a couple of years) - the Japanese by and large respect MacArthur for driving the decision for the Atomic Bomb. Why - because if he hadn't , it would have HAD to have gone to a land invasion. That would have been FAR WORSE for them as well as us. To the folks near Hiroshima and Nagasaki that had to live through the horrors of it - yes, it was bad for them. But if you talk to your average Yoshi on the street that has any grip of history, they almost all say that the alternative to the bomb was worse.

Side note - which bombing raid in Japan killed the most people and did the most damage? Hint - it wasn't Hiroshima nor Nagasaki. It was the Tokyo Firebombing Raid.

So you think training and arming more of them is the way to go?

You do realize the type of warfare you're talking about is literally endless and expensive, right? It'll go on for generations. It's what we've been doing and are still doing with no real success as they lay down their arms to arm our enemies.

At some point you have to stop shoving a square peg in a round hole and realize this is not working.

There is hope for them, looking back 30-40 years shows the middle east as a vastly different place than today, far more westernized.

Afghanistan 1970s

Afghanistan Today

The ideology needs stomped out through some means, so they can come back to the rest of civilization.