hatter, i'll be there tonight and lil' bro will be workin the door
Guns don't solve all problems, especially if this is a college setting. Numerous bouncers typically can contain ANY problem at bars, it's not like the movies where 100 people start getting into it. Typically two guys, and then once they are confronted, one guy is a problem that gets surrounded and thrown out or both get thrown out. Non-leathal weapons are the way to go in bar settings. Firearms present problems in this situation because one is typically dealing with non-rational people. Bouncer shooting a drunk guy throwing hay makers to everybody is going to destroy his life legally and financially.Hmmm...If I were a 19 year old bouncer 5'8" 155 lbs, and not permitted to carry at work, I'd want a buddy with a gun backing me up.
A big +1I'm thinking a small handheld impact/control-type weapon would work best in a crowded bar setting. No tazer, no chemical, no guns.
Something like these:
Or what about a non-sharpened training karambit for control techniques?
As for the software side of the equation, I know mercop could probably help, and I think Jim Floyd with DPG (INGO Advertiser) has a kubaton class. As others have already suggested, a basic martial arts class with focus on restraint or neutralization might be beneficial as well.
may be alone in this opinion, but when i was a bouncer i found out that when niceness would not work and it came to the last resort 99% of the time all you needed was confidence. most people love to act tough when they know the other guy will not actually fight. when they say "oh ___ this guy isn't scared" they change there tone fast. i think inside they are saying "i want to cause just enough trouble to look tough but not enough to prove im not".
I just watched that the other day for the first time.He and I both are BSU students and university ave isn't the roughest place in town, he does well managing with his words, and he's a rugby player so I've seen him take down some big guys (once in the bar) and I've passed along some of my army combatives and detainee management training (which is still minimal) He tells the drunks (if they ask) that he's 21, its his size they usually laugh at, but he's nice...until Dalton tells him not to be nice.
-PFC
I worked in a bar for awhile (when I was 19) and this is the same thing I noticed. Most times it's broken up before anything really happens, and if not people just don't want to get into it over nothing.it's not like the movies where 100 people start getting into it. Typically two guys, and then once they are confronted, one guy is a problem that gets surrounded and thrown out or both get thrown out.