The Insane "Social Justice" Thread II

[1DOWN4UP]

It is sad how the ACLU is changing over time.

I think I remember Walter Williams saying some years ago that the ACLU gets a check for $75.000 from the U.S. govt for every lawsuit that they file.I wonder if it true?

 

[printcraft]

I think I remember Walter Williams saying some years ago that the ACLU gets a check for $75.000 from the U.S. govt for every lawsuit that they file.I wonder if it true?

If that’s true just look to see who got them the funding to figure out who they are beholden to.

Now, apply that to the cases they take and push and you will see a pattern.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This shop in LaPorte Indiana is racist against colored cars.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Damn white people and their...

*shuffles deck*
*picks card*

Prog rock.

 

[JettaKnight]

It did suck. And it was the whitest music ever.

 

[Kutnupe14]

It did suck. And it was the whitest music ever.

I thought that would be Glam Rock... which admittedly, I did like as a kid.

 

[JettaKnight]

I thought that would be Glam Rock... which admittedly, I did like as a kid.

Who doesn't like a little Rock n' Roll Part 2?

 

[mmpsteve]

I thought that would be Glam Rock... which admittedly, I did like as a kid.

I'm not familiar with Glam Rock. What artist would be an example? Never mind, I looked it up. I saw the Beatles and ABBA on the list, though, and that don't seem right.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'm not familiar with Glam Rock. What artist would be an example? Never mind, I looked it up. I saw the Beatles and ABBA on the list, though, and that don't seem right.

Big hair and make-up? Glam rock.

So... Poison, Bowie, T.Rex(T.Lex?), Mott the Hoople, and of course.... Kiss.

That's not to say these don't also belong to other genres... like general classic rock/prog rock/metal... Glam Rock was more of an "extra" identifier.

 

[Hoosierkav]

Glam rock.

Where the good looking girls... are guys.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This should spark some level-headed and interesting conversation.

Netflix Fires PR Chief After He Uses N-Word In Meeting Seven Years Ago

I’m leaving Netflix after seven years. Leaders have to be beyond reproach in the example we set and unfortunately I fell short of that standard when I was insensitive in speaking to my team about words that offend in comedy. I feel awful about the distress this lapse caused to people at a company I love and where I want everyone to feel included and appreciated. I feel honored to have built a brilliant and diverse global team and to have been part of our collective adventure.

And here's Reed Hastings' memo to staff

I’ve made a decision to let go of Jonathan Friedland. Jonathan contributed greatly in many areas, but his descriptive use of the N-word on at least two occasions at work showed unacceptably low racial awareness and sensitivity, and is not in line with our values as a company.


The first incident was several months ago in a PR meeting about sensitive words. Several people afterwards told him how inappropriate and hurtful his use of the N-word was, and Jonathan apologised to those that had been in the meeting. We hoped this was an awful anomaly never to be repeated.


Three months later he spoke to a meeting of our Black Employees @ Netflix group and did not bring it up, which was understood by many in the meeting to mean he didn’t care and didn’t accept accountability for his words.


The second incident, which I only heard about this week, was a few days after the first incident; this time Jonathan said the N-word again to two of our Black employees in HR who were trying to help him deal with the original offense. The second incident confirmed a deep lack of understanding, and convinced me to let Jonathan go now.


As I reflect on this, at this first incident, I should have done more to use it as a learning moment for everyone at Netflix about how painful and ugly that word is, and that it should not be used. I realize that my privilege has made me intellectualize or otherwise minimize race issues like this. I need to set a better example by learning and listening more so I can be the leader we need.


Depending on where you live or grew up in the world, understanding and sensitivities around the history and use of the N-word can vary. Debate on the use of the word is active around the world (example) as the use of it in popular media like music and film have created some confusion as to whether or not there is ever a time when the use of the N-word is acceptable. For non-Black people, the word should not be spoken as there is almost no context in which it is appropriate or constructive (even when singing a song or reading a script). There is not a way to neutralize the emotion and history behind the word in any context. The use of the phrase “N-word” was created as a euphemism, and the norm, with the intention of providing an acceptable replacement and moving people away from using the specific word. When a person violates this norm, it creates resentment, intense frustration, and great offense for many. Our show Dear White People covers some of this ground.


Going forward, we are going to find ways to educate and help our employees broadly understand the many difficult ways that race, nationality, gender identity and privilege play out in society and our organization. We seek to be great at inclusion, across many dimensions, and these incidents show we are uneven at best. We have already started to engage outside experts to help us learn faster.


Jonathan has been a great contributor and he built a diverse global team creating awareness for Netflix, strengthening our reputation around the world, and helping make us into the successful company we are today. Many of us have worked closely with Jonathan for a long time, and have mixed emotions. Unfortunately, his lack of judgment in this area was too big for him to remain. We care deeply about our employees feeling safe and supported at Netflix.


Much of this information will be in the press shortly. But any detail not in the press is confidential to employees.

So... given the context that Jonathan Friedland gave (speaking to team about words that offend in comedy)... is that an offense worthy of being let go? Personally... no. He didn't use the word maliciously. He was talking about the word and how it's used in comedy.

Obviously we have very little to go on here... and waiting 7 years seems more like virtue signaling than anything...

 

[JettaKnight]

This should spark some level-headed and interesting conversation.

Netflix Fires PR Chief After He Uses N-Word In Meeting Seven Years Ago

Lawsuit?

 

[MCgrease08]

This should spark some level-headed and interesting conversation.

Netflix Fires PR Chief After He Uses N-Word In Meeting Seven Years Ago


And here's Reed Hastings' memo to staff

So... given the context that Jonathan Friedland gave (speaking to team about words that offend in comedy)... is that an offense worthy of being let go? Personally... no. He didn't use the word maliciously. He was talking about the word and how it's used in comedy.

Obviously we have very little to go on here... and waiting 7 years seems more like virtue signaling than anything...

Louis C.K. has a funny bit on this topic. I won't link to it due to the risk of violating site rules, but you can find it on YouTube by searching "Louis CK offended by "the N-word."

And yes, I realize Louis C.K. is kind of a perv, but it's a funny bit that touches on this kind of thing.

 

[Hoosierkav]

Was it seven years ago, or a few months ago?

He was at Netflix for seven, but the note to employees said, "The first incident was several months ago in a PR meeting about sensitive words..."

 

[Cameramonkey]

Was it seven years ago, or a few months ago?

He was at Netflix for seven, but the note to employees said, "The first incident was several months ago in a PR meeting about sensitive words..."

So is an employee complaining because he used the word in a sanitized, clinical way, in context of what you cant say, simply because he didnt choose to say "the N word"?

If so, we have reached a new low.

 

[rhino]

So is an employee complaining because he used the word in a sanitized, clinical way, in context of what you cant say, simply because he didnt choose to say "the N word"?

If so, we have reached a new low.

And yet, it's going to get much, much worse.

 

[printcraft]

Waiting for every. rapper. ever. to get fired.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Waiting for every. rapper. ever. to get fired.

No, no, no... you see, THAT is different.

 

[Kutnupe14]

No, no, no... you see, THAT is different.

It is, and everybody knows it. If one is a member of the group that the slur is meant to disparage, it's considered ok.... someone outside of that group, not so much. That goes for Asians, women, Hispanics, gays, family members, Black people, and yes, even white people.

 

[Cameramonkey]

No, its not. There is absolutely NO word that is so verboten that it cannot even be uttered in a clinical situation. Well, except One. But we wont mention *Voldemor..... Whew. Almost said it.

Not saying its acceptable to use anywhere else, but to say for instance a white HR director in a training or judge/lawyer/etc in a trial cannot utter it as part of a necessary course of professional business is absurd.

(* Wouldnt it be funny if somebody actually put that in the language filter? )