The Hillary Clinton’s Private E-mail thread

[Alpo]

If it's not illegal, it should be. One of the reasons Hildebeast is not worthy.

 

[Ericpwp]

AP now breaking: More than half those who met Clinton as Cabinet secretary gave money to Clinton Foundation.

I know I've said this before... but I wonder if this has legs? We're getting into some more serious lying and pay-to-play situations here... can it be proven? Could she be punished?

Well, she is from Illinois... Maybe one of the governors has something to say about it.

 

[jamil]

Why bother posting how bad Hillary is if you continue to advocate against her rival?

Are you serious with this? What does the ABC story have to do with me, and why are 75% of responses to the articles I post about me? I'm flattered, really... but can we not just discuss this stuff?

It is possible to be both anti-Trump and anti-Hillary. Posting negative stuff about one side shouldn't imply favor for the other. However I do kinda wish the quality of the anti-Trump stuff were better, where "better" = smells less like mythical fish.

I assumed you were more than an RSS feed and your posts implied some sort of statement about them. My apologies.

That's the problem on forums. We read between lines that may not have been intended. I do think it's intended as more than just an RSS feed.

But regardless, I've grown to appreciate the RSS feed aspect. He seems to often hit on stuff I'm interested in that may not have gotten through my noise filter otherwise. I've always assumed G's goal is to post stuff relevant to topics we discuss on INGO. The anti-Trump stuff is relevant. Even if I considered myself a Trump supporter I would not stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it's not out there. Even given a binary choice like Trump/Clinton and hell not freezing over, I'd still want to know if there is any truth to the allegations about Trump, as much as Hillary.

AP now breaking: More than half those who met Clinton as Cabinet secretary gave money to Clinton Foundation.

I know I've said this before... but I wonder if this has legs? We're getting into some more serious lying and pay-to-play situations here... can it be proven? Could she be punished?

My strong suspicion is that it does have legs. But even if it can be proven, she can't be punished. The people who do the punishing are unwilling. They already proved that she broke the law. And then offered BS excuses ("intent") for not indicting her, when others have been indicted for not having intent.

Trump said something about immigration so we need to focus on that.

It's so ridiculously obvious that it could be a hilarious SNL skit.

 

[hoosierdoc]

If it's not illegal, it should be. One of the reasons Hildebeast is not worthy.

pretty sure racketeering and bribery are illegal

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Here's How Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails | The Daily Caller




Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails Using Program Intended To Prevent Recovery

 

[ghitch75]

Here's How Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails | The Daily Caller




Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails Using Program Intended To Prevent Recovery

but she said she wiped with a cloth?

Clinton jokes about wiping server 'with a cloth' - CNN Video

 

[MCgrease08]

Here's How Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails | The Daily Caller

Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails Using Program Intended To Prevent Recovery

BleachBit. Is that like something you add to the cloth before you wipe down the server?

ETA: Dang it, ghitch. You beat me to it.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Here's How Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails | The Daily Caller




Hillary Clinton Deleted Emails Using Program Intended To Prevent Recovery

Huh. I use Bleachbit with my Linux. I had no idea it was nefarious. Then again, I don't have any state secrets in my emails.

 

[jamil]

Huh. I use Bleachbit with my Linux. I had no idea it was nefarious. Then again, I don't have any state secrets in my emails.

If private emails are just about Yoga classes and stuff, I can't imagine anyone caring to have staff personally oversee wiping them with an app like bleachbit. Well, then again, it was Clinton, and maybe there were pictures. So I guess I could see bleach being used.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

If private emails are just about Yoga classes and stuff, I can't imagine anyone caring to have staff personally oversee wiping them with an app like bleachbit. Well, then again, it was Clinton, and maybe there were pictures. So I guess I could see bleach being used.

I'm sure she'll skate on this... "We just wanted to make sure that, when we were done with the server, nothing potentially secret was left on there!"

Very well, President Clinton. Moving on.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Huh. I use Bleachbit with my Linux. I had no idea it was nefarious. Then again, I don't have any state secrets in my emails.

You slacker! I'll bet you didn't even have any county secrets!

 

[pudly]

Don't you know? Maintaining good information security is bad if it keeps the "good guys" from spying on you. It is the same reason that the government sends such mixed signals on encryption all the time.

Encrypt your hard drive? It is good for maintaining business, personal or government information secret when traveling with a laptop. Or you could be a terrorist hiding information.
Use a VPN service to encrypt communication? It is required by most businesses and government when accessing their systems remotely to prevent spying. It also means that communications are "going dark" and various 3-letter agencies have a harder time watching what you are doing.

Bleachbit, CCleaner and similar tools are good measures to protect your personal data. The technology is value neutral. As in most other cases, it can be used for good or bad.

If this was for her personal system alone, I'd be mildly impressed that she (actually "her people"), used that form of info security. The problem wasn't that Bleachbit was used. The problem was that it was used to wipe government communications that should have been on government systems from the start.

 

[ghitch75]

BleachBit. Is that like something you add to the cloth before you wipe down the server?

ETA: Dang it, ghitch. You beat me to it.

 

[ghitch75]

Don't you know? Maintaining good information security is bad if it keeps the "good guys" from spying on you. It is the same reason that the government sends such mixed signals on encryption all the time.

Encrypt your hard drive? It is good for maintaining business, personal or government information secret when traveling with a laptop. Or you could be a terrorist hiding information.
Use a VPN service to encrypt communication? It is required by most businesses and government when accessing their systems remotely to prevent spying. It also means that communications are "going dark" and various 3-letter agencies have a harder time watching what you are doing.

Bleachbit, CCleaner and similar tools are good measures to protect your personal data. The technology is value neutral. As in most other cases, it can be used for good or bad.

If this was for her personal system alone, I'd be mildly impressed that she (actually "her people"), used that form of info security. The problem wasn't that Bleachbit was used. The problem was that it was used to wipe government communications that should have been on government systems from the start.

i use CCleaner on all my computers......works really good at catching little nasty.....

 

[Leadeye]

I think part of this is a lack of understanding by hilly about the outrage over it. From her perspective, she's doing things that lots of others do in dc through law/lobby firms, the clinton foundation in this case acting as her go between. Sometimes I wonder if all the fuss about the Citizens United decision isn't the dc law/lobby establishment unhappy about the possibility of potential clients bribing leadership directly and the corresponding loss of income.

Government is a pay to play deal on many levels today and not just in dc.

Always follow the money

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You slacker! I'll bet you didn't even have any county secrets!

I don't even have any good neighborhood gossip!

 

[IndyDave1776]

I don't even have any good neighborhood gossip!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Tech firm brags about blocking FBI from recovering Clinton emails | Washington Examiner

 

[pudly]

Tech firm brags about blocking FBI from recovering Clinton emails | Washington Examiner

These is no BleachBit tech firm. It is an open source program written and maintained by volunteer software developers from around the world. It is an obscure security tool and the federal government just gave them a lot of free publicity.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

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