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    Tombs

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    I mean, why just randomly pay for someone else's meal in a situation like that?

    Because:
    1.) It doesn't require effort
    2.) It isn't enough money to be a sacrifice
    3.) They don't have to leave the safety of their neighborhood
    4.) They get to play their little game and think they're doing something good, when all they're doing is telling the person they help that they need to be charitable too.

    It's dripping with self righteous liberalism.

    I think I need to call you on your ****. He didn't besmirch veterans, he besmirched Amazon. Whether or not he served is irrelevant. But I do agree that it is ridiculous to call American veterans who are democrats, "traitors". Is that his actual position?

    If they vote for a candidate who has a policy to undermine the constitution, yes, they are a traitor.

    They took an oath to defend it, not destroy it. Making the severity of their choice even more condemnable, the uninformed voter didn't take that oath.
     

    jamil

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    Maybe you look scruffier than you think? :)

    I haven't shaved in a few months. And I was driving a late model pickup truck. And I was wearing a camo hat. But still. I can't be mad that she paid for my lunch. I'm just a little astonished that she would waste the money. She's probably much wealthier than I am, if she goes around paying for other people's meals in the drive thru at Panera's. Maybe I should just STFU and be happy. But dammit, now I feel obligated to pay it forward and find some homeless person to buy a meal. That ****ing *****.
     

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    I think I need to call you on your ****. He didn't besmirch veterans, he besmirched Amazon. Whether or not he served is irrelevant. But I do agree that it is ridiculous to call American veterans who are democrats, "traitors". Is that his actual position?

    Post 1728.
    Me too, trials should be held for these traitors to the United States people and their accessories(voters.)
     

    Alpo

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    I haven't shaved in a few months. And I was driving a late model pickup truck. And I was wearing a camo hat. But still. I can't be mad that she paid for my lunch. I'm just a little astonished that she would waste the money. She's probably much wealthier than I am, if she goes around paying for other people's meals in the drive thru at Panera's. Maybe I should just STFU and be happy. But dammit, now I feel obligated to pay it forward and find some homeless person to buy a meal. That ****ing *****.

    Damn. That's terrible. :)

    Maybe you looked like her gardener that she felt deserved a tip.
     

    jamil

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    Because:
    1.) It doesn't require effort
    2.) It isn't enough money to be a sacrifice
    3.) They don't have to leave the safety of their neighborhood
    4.) They get to play their little game and think they're doing something good, when all they're doing is telling the person they help that they need to be charitable too.

    It's dripping with self righteous liberalism.



    If they vote for a candidate who has a policy to undermine the constitution, yes, they are a traitor.

    They took an oath to defend it, not destroy it. Making the severity of their choice even more condemnable, the uninformed voter didn't take that oath.

    We've seen a lot of examples on INGO where people think something is or isn't constitutional, and they draw some conclusions from that. Sometimes they're wrong. So I'm pretty sure there are other more likely causes for why they might vote for Democrats other than to destroy the constitution. Of course there are some bat**** crazies who do want to destroy it. But those are not mainstream Democrats, at least non of the Democrats I know.
     

    Tombs

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    We've seen a lot of examples on INGO where people think something is or isn't constitutional, and they draw some conclusions from that. Sometimes they're wrong. So I'm pretty sure there are other more likely causes for why they might vote for Democrats other than to destroy the constitution. Of course there are some bat**** crazies who do want to destroy it. But those are not mainstream Democrats, at least non of the Democrats I know.

    Considering more than 2/3rds of the military opposed democrats in 2016, I think the overwhelming majority are well aware of what is and is not against the oath they took.
     

    jamil

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    Considering more than 2/3rds of the military opposed democrats in 2016, I think the overwhelming majority are well aware of what is and is not against the oath they took.

    :scratch: 2/3rds of the military was republican before they went in. It doesn't seem logical to me that the reason they're republicans after being in, is because of their oath, and that democrats want to destroy the constitution. it's probably more because they're just republicans.
     

    Tombs

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    :scratch: 2/3rds of the military was republican before they went in. It doesn't seem logical to me that the reason they're republicans after being in, is because of their oath, and that democrats want to destroy the constitution. it's probably more because they're just republicans.

    I didn't say republican?

    There's a lot more 3rd party voters in the military than in the general public.
     

    jamil

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    I didn't say republican?

    There's a lot more 3rd party voters in the military than in the general public.

    Still the same point. They were what they were when they went in, and they stay what they were while in. You can't project your worldview about the constitution and expect other people to obey your worldview. I'm sure very few democrats think they're destroying the constitution, notwithstanding the bat**** crazies.
     

    Tombs

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    Still the same point. They were what they were when they went in, and they stay what they were while in. You can't project your worldview about the constitution and expect other people to obey your worldview. I'm sure very few democrats think they're destroying the constitution, notwithstanding the bat**** crazies.

    I guess if you consider essential human rights listed in black and white on our founding document, that they're swearing an oath to, as a world view.

    I don't. It's a sacred document that gave birth to the greatest nation the world has ever seen, and I no longer have tolerance for those who wish to abolish it.
     

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    I guess if you consider essential human rights listed in black and white on our founding document, that they're swearing an oath to, as a world view.

    I don't. It's a sacred document that gave birth to the greatest nation the world has ever seen, and I no longer have tolerance for those who wish to abolish it.

    The world view is how they interpret the document. I mean this is basic stuff.
     

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    The world view is how they interpret the document. I mean this is basic stuff.

    The constitution's language is also pretty basic and hard to miss the point of unless you have a malicious intention, as well.

    You have to remember, you're trying to tell me that "they aren't that bad" when to my moral compass, they're no better than the people behind slavery and genocide.
    New age, new generation, same despotic evil.
     
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    We've seen a lot of examples on INGO where people think something is or isn't constitutional, and they draw some conclusions from that. Sometimes they're wrong. So I'm pretty sure there are other more likely causes for why they might vote for Democrats other than to destroy the constitution. Of course there are some bat**** crazies who do want to destroy it. But those are not mainstream Democrats, at least non of the Democrats I know.

    Even if the voters don’t want to destroy it, they’re voting for candidates who do, and openly say they do. When a candidate says he wants to confiscate guns and people support him... that’s supporting the destroying of the constitution. No way to misinterpret that
     

    jamil

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    Even if the voters don’t want to destroy it, they’re voting for candidates who do, and openly say they do. When a candidate says he wants to confiscate guns and people support him... that’s supporting the destroying of the constitution. No way to misinterpret that
    That’s where worldview and interpretation comes in. They don’t think that’s destroying the constitution. But I doubt that matters. You guys seem to want to establish the dichotomies the way you do. Not every democrat wants that.
     

    KG1

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    Would it be ironic the author sold his book in a capitalist economy, and enjoyed profits from the fruits of his labor?
    Didn’t Bernie Sanders write a book about socialist revolution which pocketed him close to a million dollars?

    I believe when he was questioned about it he said something to the effect that he wrote a best selling book. If you write a best selling book you can be a millionaire too.

    It seems to me that he is encouraging others not to be haters and go out and do something in a capitalist environment to enrich themselves like he did.

    I find it quite ironic that the book was about socialist revolution.
     

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    You'd think that. But "by and large" isn't all that true. The filthy richest people in the US are democrats too.


    • Bill Gates: $106.8 billion. Not a republican.
    • Warren Buffett: $80.8 billion. Not a republican.
    • Mark Zuckerberg: $69.6 billion. Bat **** crazy progressive.
    • Larry Ellison: $65 billion. Hard to say, he donates to both. Might lean Republican though.
    • Larry Page: $55.5 billion. Bat **** crazy progressive.
    • Sergey Brin: $53.5 billion. Bat **** crazy progressive.
    • Michael Bloomberg: $53.4 billion. Former Democrat then RINO then independent then democrat.
    • Steve Ballmer: $51.7 billion. Not a republican.
    • Jim Walton: $51.6 billion. Probably republican.

    "People," as in individuals... but by family (according to political donations). These can be speed out over many different people.


    1. Walton – Republican
    2. Koch – Republican
    3. Mars – Republican
    4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican
    5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican
    6. Hearst – Republican
    7. Cox – Democrat
    8. Pritzker – Both
    9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican
    10. Duncan – Republican
    11. Newhouse – Democrat
    12. Lauder – Both
    13. Du Pont – Republican
    14. Hunt – Republican
    15. Ziff – Both
    16. Johnson (Franklin Templeton) – Republican
    17. Busch – Both
    18. Dorrance – Both
    19. Mellon – Republican
    20. Brown – Both
    21. Carlson – Both
    22. Fisher – Republican
    23. Butt – Democrat
    24. Rockefeller – Both
    25. Gallo – Democrat
    26. Marshall – Republican
    27. Bass – Both
    28. Meijer – Republican
    29. Bechtel – Republican
    29. Reyes – Republican
    29. Simplot – Republican
    32. Rales – Both
    33. Rollins – Republican
    34. Scripps – Republican
    35. Crown – Both
    36. Stryker – Democrat
    37. Smith – Republican
    38. Pigott – Republican
    39. Shoen – Both
    39. Simon – Democrat
    41. Lefrak – Both
    42. Hughes – Republican
    42. Phipps – Republican
    44. Kluge – Both
    44. Tisch – Democrat
    46. Johnson (Johnson & Johnson) – Republican
    47. Marriott – Republican
    48. Kohler – Republican
    49. Perot – Both
    50. Barbey – Republican
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/katias...milies-republicans-or-democrats/#5161f6cc3e83
     

    rob63

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    There is something really funky with those lists. If you follow the links on Forbes you end up with the richest family in America is the Walton's with $130 billion, the 2nd is the Koch's with $82 billion, etc.

    The strange thing being that they appear to have completely excluded individuals such as Gates, Buffet, Zuckerberg etc. that have plenty enough money to have been on the list.
     

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    There is something really funky with those lists. If you follow the links on Forbes you end up with the richest family in America is the Walton's with $130 billion, the 2nd is the Koch's with $82 billion, etc.

    The strange thing being that they appear to have completely excluded individuals such as Gates, Buffet, Zuckerberg etc. that have plenty enough money to have been on the list.

    Perhaps they are pointing out families that are solidly R or D. Gates has contributed 8 times to Democrats and 6 times to Republicans. But then you have Buffet and Zuckerberg who both seem to be Democrats. I would imagine that "family" is probably a key component, meaning the wealth is spread well throughout large blue blood families. Old money, if you will.
     

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    Big money wants to be in charge and stay in charge, I don't think political denominations play into their game much unless it's for some pet social cause. Exceptions will be made in the fine print of socialist wealth confiscation laws for those at the very top. It keeps tax laws complicated and tax/accounting firms rich.
     
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