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    DoggyDaddy

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    Orange Man is in charge. He's got another year to fix all those things. If he doesn't, it's the democrats fault? Maybe he ought to play a little less golf and quit watching the news and tweeting every simple thought that filters out of his less than capable head and get to work.

    Don't worry about the democrats. You boys are in charge. Do something.

    Edit: It's too early to start arguing about these topics. You guys go ahead and kibbitz. I'll be back closer to election time. Maybe for the debates. Hmmm....I wonder if any democrat is crazy enough to blame vaccines for mental retardation......



    No....I doubt that.

    Since when did the Executive branch make the laws though? Sure, he can "encourage" Congress to do what he wants done, but outside of vetos and EO's that's about it. Biden is more or less stating that his only goal is to defeat Donald Trump. Then what?? Seems like they don't have a plan ("they" being the Democrat party). Oh wait, they do want to ban cow farts and airplane travel. :rolleyes: At least Trump put forth ideas about what he wanted to accomplish, and he has gotten a lot of those ideas accomplished, sometimes in spite of his own party members. The Republicans in congress are weak. I am disappointed in their performance, especially when they had both houses. But since the president/presidential candidate is the defacto spokesman for the party, it seems like Biden would do well to come up with something besides "Orange Man Bad".
     

    Alpo

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    He's Biden his time. :)

    Frankly, Biden is better off saying very little. Less chance for a gaffe this early on.

    Trump, on the other hand, can't keep his yap shut. He may lose the election on his own with little assistance from the other side.
     

    Doug

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    Trump stop tweeting? :rofl:

    I can hear the news reports now...

    "It has been almost 24 hours since President Donald Trump has sent a tweet. His silence proves conclusively that he has no answer to the many charges lodged against him by his opponents. Rumors abound that, having no idea how to proceed, he will shortly announce his resignation."
     

    jamil

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    C'mon bud. He had 2 years to do as he damn well pleased. Don't blame the new congress.
    Yes and no. The only bills Trump could get out of the senate were those which didn’t need 60 votes. He didn’t have them. Also there is/was the so-called freedom caucus in the house which was opposed to many things Trump wanted to do, like the wall, repealing Obamacare, etcetera.

    That said, he didn’t need to make it easier to paint himself into the very image of the straw monster the media said he was. He probably could have gotten more things done if he worked with congress instead of against.
     

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    These Fox Democrat “Town Hall” interviews look more like televised campaign rallies.

    Throughout the latest one with Buttgieg the crowd was hooting and hollering and clapping gleefully with approval on pretty much everything that came out of his mouth.

    They even gave him a rousing standing ovation at the conclusion.

    It took the interviewer Chis Wallace by surprise. He said “wow, a standing ovation”

    Rediculous. Phony. Might as well just call it out for what it was. A campaign rally for supporters of Buttgieg.
     

    KG1

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    Then there’s this piece of work Gillebrand decrying sexism for the reason her polling numbers are in the tank.

    She apparently must be calling out members of her own party as sexist because those polling numbers are for a Democrat primary.

    The reason couldn’t possibly be that Democrats might be rejecting the constant stream of bilge water that continues to stream out of your pie hole every time you open it.

    I’ve got news for you. You’re not a very likable candidate. You might do well enough to get by in your own state but you’re pretty much a dud on the national level and it isn’t like you don’t get plenty of media exposure to win voters over.

    Face it you’ll never amount to anything significant for a national office.
     

    JettaKnight

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    These Fox Democrat “Town Hall” interviews look more like televised campaign rallies.

    Throughout the latest one with Buttgieg the crowd was hooting and hollering and clapping gleefully with approval on pretty much everything that came out of his mouth.

    They even gave him a rousing standing ovation at the conclusion.

    It took the interviewer Chis Wallace by surprise. He said “wow, a standing ovation”

    Rediculous. Phony. Might as well just call it out for what it was. A campaign rally for supporters of Buttgieg.

    Meh.


    Well, Fox News does claim to be "fair and balanced", so if you run a campaign for one party...
     

    KG1

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    Meh.


    Well, Fox News does claim to be "fair and balanced", so if you run a campaign for one party...
    That’s all well and good if Fox News wants to give equal time if that’s what they’re doing but let’s not pass it off as a legit “Town Hall” when it’s pretty obvious that it’s more likely a campaign rally.

    Maybe that’s the only way Fox can get them to come on if they agree to load the audience with supporters to make them look fantastic.

    But I guess it’s neither here nor thereas far as i’m concerned. I’m not a Democrat and all Buttgieg represents to me is just another polished slick talking empty suit just like Obama was.

    All image and no substance.
     

    JettaKnight

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    That’s all well and good if Fox News wants to give equal time if that’s what they’re doing but let’s not pass it off as a legit “Town Hall” when it’s pretty obvious that it’s more likely a campaign rally.

    Maybe that’s the only way Fox can get them to come on if they agree to load the audience with supporters to make them look fantastic.

    But I guess it’s neither here nor thereas far as i’m concerned. I’m not a Democrat and all Buttgieg represents to me is just another polished slick talking empty suit just like Obama was.

    All image and no substance.

    He's really a one trick pony, and people are going to get tired of it real soon.
     

    BugI02

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    He's Biden his time. :)

    Frankly, Biden is better off saying very little. Less chance for a gaffe this early on.

    Trump, on the other hand, can't keep his yap shut. He may lose the election on his own with little assistance from the other side.

    https://quillette.com/2019/05/20/at...the-lefts-empathy-deficit-came-home-to-roost/
    At Australian Ballot Boxes, the Left’s Empathy Deficit Came Home to Roost


    Progressive politicians like to assume that, on election day at least, blue-collar workers and urban progressives will bridge their differences, and make common cause to support leftist economic policies. This assumption might once have been warranted. But it certainly isn’t now—in large part because the intellectuals, activists and media pundits who present the most visible face of modern leftism are the same people openly attacking the values and cultural tastes of working and middle-class voters. And thanks to social media (and the caustic news-media culture that social media has encouraged and normalized), these attacks are no longer confined to dinner-party titterings and university lecture halls. Brigid Delaney, a senior writer for Guardian Australia, responded to Saturday’s election result with a column about how Australia has shown itself to be “rotten.” One well-known Australian feminist and op-ed writer, Clementine Ford, has been fond of Tweeting sentiments such as “All men are scum and must die.” Former Australian Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane, who also has served as a high-profile newspaper columnist, argues that even many mainstream political positions—such as expressing concern about the Chinese government’s rising regional influence—are a smokescreen for racism.

    What the election actually shows us is that the so-called quiet Australians, whether they are tradies (to use the Australian term) in Penrith, retirees in Bundaberg, or small business owners in Newcastle, are tired of incessant scolding from their purported superiors. Condescension isn’t a good look for a political movement.


    Taking stock of real voters’ needs would require elites to exhibit a spirit of empathic understanding—such as by way of acknowledging that blue-collar workers have good reason to vote down parties whose policies would destroy blue-collar jobs; or that legal immigrants might oppose opening up a nation’s border to migrants who arrive illegally. More broadly, the modern progressive left has lost touch with the fact that what ordinary people want from their government is a spirit of respect, dignity and hope for the future. While the fetish for hectoring and moral puritanism has become popular in rarefied corners of arts and academia, it is deeply off-putting to voters whose sense of self extends beyond cultish ideological tribalism.

    No centre-left party in the Anglosphere has adapted to the ongoing class realignment. Indeed, they lack even the vocabulary to explain what such adaptation would entail—which is why the left’s recent election losses, from Alberta to Adelaide, are blithely chalked up to voter xenophobia or ignorance (a response that, of course, only serves to make their brand problem worse). Until the left finds a way out of this endless loop of toxic pre-election posturing and post-election blame-shifting, such supposedly “shocking” results as was witnessed on Saturday are going to remain a regular occurrence.


    Alpo, that was written by an Aussie about the fact that Australia just rejected holier than thou, pie in the sky green feel good projects and the illegal alien loveliest in favor of a government pragmatically doing what's best for everyday ordinary citizens

    I would point out that they re-elected a politician who is delivering on those ideals, and gave him a majority government. Does some of the language and ideas of the losing side remind you of any party you may or may not be a member of?

    Trump will run the table in 2020
     

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    There are now so many candidates that DNC has announced they will hold a lottery to determine who gets on the stage for back-to-back nights of debates next month.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/24/democratic-debates-joe-biden/

    Lottery. Right. The party of Donna Brazil transparent?

    "Qualified candidates must earn at least 1% of the vote in three national or designated early primary state polls to be offered a spot in the debates, or receive donations from 65,000 unique donors in 20 or more states. Roughly 12 candidates have reached both benchmarks, media reports show. There have been surprises."

    I really don't see why it can't be completely based on merit. Period. If the above is the benchmark even to be considered for the lottery, why have the lottery? Just make this the criteria to be eligible for the debate. It sounds to me like 12 candidates for a debate is reasonable. Done.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    They set the rules in advance to seem reasonable... then didn't like the outcome they were seeing under those rules... so they change the rules mid-game.

    Any surprise? SOP for them.
     

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    The progressive/socialists wing of the party will not vote for Corporatist Joe.
    The Bernie Bros won't vote for anyone else.
    The Dem base won't vote for any of the progressives/socialists.
    I think the party is too split and won't unite behind any one candidate.
     
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    Doug

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    The progressive/socialists wing of the party will not vote for Corporatist Joe.
    The Bernie Bros went vote for anyone else.
    The Dem base won't vote for any of the progressives/socialists.
    I think the party is too split and won't unite behind any one candidate.

    So, the executive committee will pick the candidate and instruct the super delegates to vote for him/her. Just like last time...
     

    BillD

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    So, the executive committee will pick the candidate and instruct the super delegates to vote for him/her. Just like last time...

    AOC has already said Joe won't do. Given that she has an outsize voice and outsize audience and people just love her, that means Joe probably won't get the progressive wing. Even if he's the candidate which he probably will be. I don't think it matters who they pick. They don't have a new savior out there on the horizon.
     
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