The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

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    Alpo

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    Or. Say you live in a red state. Oh, Idunno, maybe Indiana, and you had this really old, really RINO senator who’d been in the Senate, beating every Dumbocrap candidate for like 300 years, and you really wanted to get rid of him, because his voting record was so RINO. A disgrace. His name was Dick Milquelugar. So moderate he was practically a commie. You wanted to get rid of him for many decades and get a real conservative in there.

    So one year this real conservative guy ran in the primary. He’s like the real deal. His name, Moredick. So conservative, he doesn’t give a **** if it’s rape, or whatever, that ***** is havin’ the kid because...well...you know. Now that’s a pretty radical view, especially for the chamber-o-commerce Fudd Republicans (CocFudds) in the state. And the dumbocraps know it. So they run this red dog dumbocrap guy named Dumbolly, and sprayed “conservative” cologne on him so that he smelled conservative. In reality, he was actually a commie union ho.

    So then comes the primary election. The conservatives are happy they now have a real conservative to vote for. The Dumbocraps have something up their sleeves tho. See Indiana is one of those “open primary” states, which means, a Democrat could cross over and vote for a Republican in a primary, as long as they pinky-swear that they’re not just trying to hand the Rubes a dude candidate for the general election.

    So the Dumbocraps start thinking, hey, we cant beat Milqueluger with a Dumbocrapic candidate but maybe we could beat Milquelugar with a Moredick. So they bussed in a herd of union thugs and the usual dead people to vote for Moredick over Milquelugar, and pinkie swear that they really wanted Moredick.

    This worked. Moredick soundly defeated Milquelugar in the primary. The conservatives thought they could finally get a real conservative in the Senate.

    So in the debates for the general election they had their practically commie moderator ask Moredick a gotcha question: What about if it’s rape? And of course Moredick answers the question as idiotically as a politician could. He told the truth about what he believed. The CoCFudds all gasp. The Dumbocraps go all ape****. The conservatives cheer. Yay! He’s our guy. Makes national news. Press shames Mordick.

    November rolls around. Moredick is defeated by Dumbolly. Dumbocraps cheer. CoCFudds are relieved the radical didn’t win. Conservatives blamed the 3rd party guy, because the radical conservative guy whom the CoCFudds didn’t like couldn’t possibly have lost the election because he answered that question stupidly.

    Now conservatives embrace the strategy because principles are stupid.


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    actaeon277

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    They'll just do what they did last time, and the candidate they want to win, will win.
    They were blatant last time and no one cared.
    Why would they change?
     

    KG1

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    Who are moderate Democrats going to settle on to try and take out the radical front runners? Klobuchar has gained some momentum but I don’t think she can win the race.

    Will it be Doomberg? Or maybe will they have to back Butgig in the end as the less radical sounding choice to take out Burnie?

    The moderates are surely faced with a conundrum if they have hopes of saving their party from the radical likes of Sanders.
    Notice I did'nt mention Biden. I think his mental instabilities are becoming more and more obvious for even moderate Democrats to ignore who once pinned their hopes on him.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    And now we have evidence that the major parties are complicit in diluting the voters power to maintain their status quo...

    The above sounds dissonant to me versus the earlier posts to respect the parties' ability to pick their candidates.

    Either Republicans and Democrats, as political parties, have the right to pick their favored candidate... or the primaries should be open, and anyone can vote for whoever they want in the primary, regardless of party.

    (the third way is a "jungle" primary, which sounds great in theory, but in practice seems to reinforce the party "discipline" of the "ruling" party in places like California)

    The primary in Indiana is completely open with no party registration... the portions of the law that try to divine prior voting history or that attempts to bind the voter to voting a certain way in the general election, are clearly beyond the pale.
     

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    While this seems to be mostly true, I do not recall dem crossover being a big part of Moredick winning a primary.



    In round numbers about 900K votes were cast in the primary vs 2.5 million in the election does not seem to bolster the crossover point.

    Moredick was a Moredick candidate with a history of losing races he was not riding coat tails.
    Of course “Moredick”, Dumbolly, and Milquelugar, make it obvious it’s a joke that has a but of truth behind it. And obviously everything is exaggerated, at least as much as you’d expect for an unwanted 3AM unintended awakening. It’s purpose, true or not, was to illustrate how crappy open elections are, and how silly it is to make the “illegal” thing intent. That makes it about as meaningful as the fictitious pinky swear. Open primaries make it easy for either party to wreck the other.

    And honestly, it should be taken advantage of. If I vote in the primary, if there is any doubt left, I’m going to vote for the craziest candidate left standing.

    It’s been my suspicion that Democrats “helped” Mourdock win the primary. I had done some statistical analysis on the primary results comparing to other primaries, and the results seemed really odd. Also read a report about union people being bussed to polls. Seemed odd if true, because Donnelly was unopposed in the primaries. Also there were calls on social media for Democrats to help defeat Lugar. Bottom line, it’s a suspicion, I have no proof, just enough circumstantial stuff to strongly suspect.
     
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    Of course “Moredick”, Dumbolly, and Milquelugar, make it obvious it’s a joke that has a but of truth behind it. And obviously everything is exaggerated, at least as much as you’d expect for an unwanted 3AM unintended awakening. It’s purpose, true or not, was to illustrate how crappy open elections are, and how silly it is to make the “illegal” thing intent. That makes it about as meaningful as the fictitious pinky swear. Open primaries make it easy for either party to wreck the other.

    And honestly, it should be taken advantage of. If I vote in the primary, if there is any doubt left, I’m going to vote for the craziest candidate left standing.

    It’s been my suspicion that Democrats “helped” Mourdock win the primary. I had done some statistical analysis on the primary results comparing to other primaries, and the results seemed really odd. Also read a report about union people being bussed to polls. Seemed odd if true, because Donnelly was unopposed in the primaries. Also there were calls on social media for Democrats to help defeat Lugar. Bottom line, it’s a suspicion, I have no proof, just enough circumstantial stuff to strongly suspect.

    It seems to me that the fallacy in your observations and conclusions for Indiana is that a party member would throw out his/her chances at voting for other party candidates being primaried for the revengeporn vote for some crazy in the other party. It might happen, but it wouldn't happen often. Why throw out a chance to vote for a worthy democratic congressional representative contender in a close primary race just to hose a republican senator primary candidate? Doesn't wash.
     

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    It seems to me that the fallacy in your observations and conclusions for Indiana is that a party member would throw out his/her chances at voting for other party candidates being primaried for the revengeporn vote for some crazy in the other party. It might happen, but it wouldn't happen often. Why throw out a chance to vote for a worthy democratic congressional representative contender in a close primary race just to hose a republican senator primary candidate? Doesn't wash.

    IMO, you mis-characterize - both the previous Senate primary race and the upcoming Presidential primary.

    If your preferred candidate is unopposed in the primary, you can:

    1. Vote for him/her in the primary as a show of support that does nada...
    2. Stay at home
    3. Vote strategically for a different candidate that you predict "you guy/gal" will be more likely to beat.

    Within an open primary, game theory and playing to win dictate #3... which is a pox on open primaries, IMO.
     

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    I said I party members should select nominee...

    If it is a problem, then the primaries should be closed. Otherwise, the evidence is that the parties aren't terribly concerned.

    And now we have evidence that the major parties are complicit in diluting the voters power to maintain their status quo...

    The above sounds dissonant to me versus the earlier posts to respect the parties' ability to pick their candidates.

    Either Republicans and Democrats, as political parties, have the right to pick their favored candidate... or the primaries should be open, and anyone can vote for whoever they want in the primary, regardless of party.

    .

    If the sequence is read it is clearer the context. Any party consists of two parts, leadership and membership, my point was maybe leadership wants it the way it is so they can manipulate things better than if it truly was a locked down process.
     

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    IMO, you mis-characterize - both the previous Senate primary race and the upcoming Presidential primary.

    If your preferred candidate is unopposed in the primary, you can:

    1. Vote for him/her in the primary as a show of support that does nada...
    2. Stay at home
    3. Vote strategically for a different candidate that you predict "you guy/gal" will be more likely to beat.

    Within an open primary, game theory and playing to win dictate #3... which is a pox on open primaries, IMO.

    Didn't think Indiana had an open primary...except maybe presidential candidates. I thought we were "mixed". But, I could be wrong.
     

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    Notice I did'nt mention Biden. I think his mental instabilities are becoming more and more obvious for even moderate Democrats to ignore who once pinned their hopes on him.

    I think this shows how much fear there is of Biden. Biden isn't mental unstable, if he is, he's been that way for he past 20-something years and is certainly no worse than the current sitting Chief Executive.
     

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    I think this shows how much fear there is of Biden. Biden isn't mental unstable, if he is, he's been that way for he past 20-something years and is certainly no worse than the current sitting Chief Executive.
    Deny it all you want. "Biden all the way baby!!!" :rockwoot:You still going with that?
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Didn't think Indiana had an open primary...except maybe presidential candidates. I thought we were "mixed". But, I could be wrong.

    I knew we were at least partially "open" since I've never registered for a party affiliation and was asked which party ballot I wanted in primaries.

    Honestly, I lived in a different state many years ago that allowed only independents to chose which party primary ballot they wanted... thought it was the same in Indiana because, for me, it was, lol! I've always had to choose which primary to vote in.

    I did not realize until this year that anyone, even Republicans or Democrats, can vote in either party's primary in Indiana.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    I said I party members should select nominee...

    ...

    If the sequence is read it is clearer the context. Any party consists of two parts, leadership and membership, my point was maybe leadership wants it the way it is so they can manipulate things better than if it truly was a locked down process.

    Gotcha!
     

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    I think this shows how much fear there is of Biden. Biden isn't mental unstable, if he is, he's been that way for he past 20-something years and is certainly no worse than the current sitting Chief Executive.

    Fear of Biden? If he doesn't outright win South Carolina and make sort of improvement in Nevada, he's done.
     

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    I think this shows how much fear there is of Biden. Biden isn't mental unstable, if he is, he's been that way for he past 20-something years and is certainly no worse than the current sitting Chief Executive.

    Van Jones, who has had some heads up commentary recently, said

    And on former Vice President Joe Biden, Jones couldn’t quite figure out how he seemed to be banking on support from minority voters to propel him to victory.
    “Listen, he’s doing this rope a-dope strategy, ‘I’m just going to get pounded in Iowa, I’m going to get pounded in New Hampshire and I’m going to come back based on black people kind of lifting me over this sort of … all these deficits,'” Jones said.


    “And maybe it’ll work for him but it’s a very odd strategy, it’s a very weird strategy and I don’t know if he knows that African-Americans are watching TV at night and see you can’t get white votes.”
     
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