The CZickness X

[db1959]

I wish I could get into the guts of guns like some of you do. I guess I can get into them but getting the thing to work again is another story. I don't do well with small parts.

 

[bjenkins]

You're on several lists. You can be sure of that.

 

[RustyHornet]

I wish I could get into the guts of guns like some of you do. I guess I can get into them but getting the thing to work again is another story. I don't do well with small parts.

It's not that hard. My motto has always been, if some dumb SOB put it together, this dumb SOB can do the same.

 

[db1959]

It's not that hard. My motto has always been, if some dumb SOB put it together, this dumb SOB can do the same.

I suppose I could try then take it to the Wizard....rethinking that I should skip the first step and just take it to the Wizard.

 

[churchmouse]

I suppose I could try then take it to the Wizard....rethinking that I should skip the first step and just take it to the Wizard.

Yup. I do. He has the road maps.

 

[RustyHornet]

Rusty is tired.... Planning on digging into another CZ tonight, that is if the couch doesn't try to run away.

 

[T-DOGG]

Just signed up for this. Really excited. Have been talking about it for years. Time to do it.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...-basic-rifle-20-21-may-2017-%96-richmond.html

I'm excited about this one as well.

 

[RustyHornet]

I'm excited about this one as well.

This is gonna be a good time.

 

[88E30M50]

Some CZs are easier to work on than others. The basic P07/P09 system is a breeze to disassemble completely and with 5 minutes of YouTube surfing, just about anyone can work on that one. The non-Omega 75s are more difficult and involve more parts and a couple of punches but it's still not too bad if you don't disassembe the sear cage. Pre-Bs can be tricky with the early style safety detent that's similar to the P07/P09 type, but much more difficult to assemble. You need a pin to put through the small hole in the safety to keep those together for assembly and disassembly. The decockers are a PITA since the sear cage pin runs through the frame too. You need a slave pin to disassemble those and even then, they can be a real PITA at times. On the upside, since the decocker pin runs through the frame, it locks the sear cage in place better which means that the theoretical trigger pull might just be a bit better if there's no sear cage movement taking part in the trigger pull.

 

[RustyHornet]

I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how easy a CZ is to detail strip, but I have done it enough now that its no big deal.

 

[churchmouse]

Some CZs are easier to work on than others. The basic P07/P09 system is a breeze to disassemble completely and with 5 minutes of YouTube surfing, just about anyone can work on that one. The non-Omega 75s are more difficult and involve more parts and a couple of punches but it's still not too bad if you don't disassembe the sear cage. Pre-Bs can be tricky with the early style safety detent that's similar to the P07/P09 type, but much more difficult to assemble. You need a pin to put through the small hole in the safety to keep those together for assembly and disassembly. The decockers are a PITA since the sear cage pin runs through the frame too. You need a slave pin to disassemble those and even then, they can be a real PITA at times. On the upside, since the decocker pin runs through the frame, it locks the sear cage in place better which means that the theoretical trigger pull might just be a bit better if there's no sear cage movement taking part in the trigger pull.

Yeah......................what 88 said......

 

[RustyHornet]

Yeah......................what 88 said......

And that's why he was INGOer of the year last year and in the running again this year already.

 

[llh1956]

Some CZs are easier to work on than others. The basic P07/P09 system is a breeze to disassemble completely and with 5 minutes of YouTube surfing, just about anyone can work on that one. The non-Omega 75s are more difficult and involve more parts and a couple of punches but it's still not too bad if you don't disassembe the sear cage. Pre-Bs can be tricky with the early style safety detent that's similar to the P07/P09 type, but much more difficult to assemble. You need a pin to put through the small hole in the safety to keep those together for assembly and disassembly. The decockers are a PITA since the sear cage pin runs through the frame too. You need a slave pin to disassemble those and even then, they can be a real PITA at times. On the upside, since the decocker pin runs through the frame, it locks the sear cage in place better which means that the theoretical trigger pull might just be a bit better if there's no sear cage movement taking part in the trigger pull.

You hit the nail on the head and I would ad that the Phantom is the most difficult of all! Along with being a de cocker you have to assemble the sear cage and hammer group into the sub frame then this unit is set into the polymer lower and then the sear pin is installed through the poly lower, the sub frame and through the sear cage. This as a big PITA but I love my Phantom and it is my HD gun on the night stand!

 

[RustyHornet]

Howdy Mr. Wizard!!

 

[churchmouse]

You hit the nail on the head and I would ad that the Phantom is the most difficult of all! Along with being a de cocker you have to assemble the sear cage and hammer group into the sub frame then this unit is set into the polymer lower and then the sear pin is installed through the poly lower, the sub frame and through the sear cage. This as a big PITA but I love my Phantom and it is my HD gun on the night stand!

My new to me phantom (Cajun Custom....sorry wiz) is on the dresser.

 

[llh1956]

Hey Rusty, CM!

 

[churchmouse]

Wiz.....

 

[llh1956]

My new to me phantom (Cajun Custom....sorry wiz) is on the dresser.

Nice, I thought you picked up a Shadow??

 

[llh1956]

Howdy CM

 

[RustyHornet]

How is the Wizard this fine Saturday evening?