The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[nonobaddog]

People, scientists and Government agencies have been talking about nuking hurricanes for well over 60 years now. It comes up all the time. So much so that I would have thought everybody would have heard of it long before now. People with the knee-jerk reactions are just showing off their TDS.

 

[printcraft]

(Massive hurricane forms in the gulf heading for new orleans)
FEMA: evacuate new orleans a massive hurricane is on the way
Residents: No we are staying
Massive hurricane hits new orleans
Residents: "Why didn't Trump nuke the hurricane?!
Kanye West turns on Trump

 

[nonobaddog]

 

[jamil]

Another fake story falls apart.

See, this **** is why people don't trust the press. And it doesn't matter how much they retract this stuff after the headlines go out. That's all people really care about. I know people who claim a lot of stuff about Trump or conservatives that got retracted, and people are still claiming it happened. People still think hands up don't shoot happened. People still think that famous french actor, Jussie Smollett (pronounced Juicee Smollyay) was accosted by two MAGA hat wearing white Trumpers. People still think Sandmann rudely step in the path of a poor Native American with a smirk on his face.

 

[nonobaddog]

Exactly - they just want to make these false claims because of that. People with TDS want to and will believe any and all of these lies. There will be a lot more before the election.

 

[jamil]

Exactly - they just want to make these false claims because of that. People with TDS want to and will believe any and all of these lies. There will be a lot more before the election.

If they were serious about setting the record straight they'd put that retraction in a headline in as prominent a position as the wrong headline went out.

 

[Leadeye]

There's a lot of things I don't like about the President, but I think when the history of his term(s) is written at the top will be that he had one heluva good time being President. That's probably rare.

 

[jamil]

Didn't Fredo say some **** about Trump not looking like he's aged? So that obviously means he doesn't care?

That's news I guess.

 

[Leadeye]

Fredo is probably unhappy with his life, that reflects badly on a person. I think more than anything Trump loves pushing peoples buttons and being the center of attention. Imagine a world where big media simply ignored him.

 

[jamil]

Well, whether he intended it or not, he sure got Fredo to show his ass.

 

[KG1]

Say what you want about Trump but the media and the talking heads should not get a pass for thier abhorrent behavior.

Neither should the Democrats that continue to harass a duly elected POTUS with thier never ending push to pin something on Trump because they just can’t get over the fact that he beat HRC.

Might as well throw in the behavior of all the crooked actors that we’re at the head of the FBI, DOJ, CIA and DNI under the Obama administration that tried to take down Trump while giving HRC a get out of jail free card.

 

[KLB]

Fredo is probably unhappy with his life, that reflects badly on a person. I think more than anything Trump loves pushing peoples buttons and being the center of attention. Imagine a world where big media simply ignored him.

I think you have it exactly right.

He would probably have a stroke.

 

[Jludo]

I think you have it exactly right.

He would probably have a stroke.

Unfortunately the media cares more about traffic/clicks than they actually care about getting to Trump

 

[Leadeye]

I always remember during the 2016 campaign big media people constantly used the term that he sucked all the oxygen out of the room. They were wrong in that description, they gave him all the oxygen in the room. It's really a symbiotic relationship.

 

[Phase2]

The Inspector General report has come out on Comey's handling of memos from his time with the FBI. Very short version- he isn't being criminally charged based on this, but he violated FBI regs and his employment agreement repeatedly and knowingly. Wonder if they can rescind his pension or some other punishment?

DOJ Inspector General’s Report Blasts James Comey

Short version of information excepted from the OIG report:

• Comey considered his memos to be personal documents and not FBI property. "In view of the clarity of relevant provisions of law, policies, and Comey’s Employment Agreement, the assertion that the Memos were personal records was not reasonable. …"
• Comey violated policy and his employment agreement again when he shared those documents with attorneys and and his friend.
• Comey both claimed that the one memo was too sensitive to share with the OIG and pushed it to the public domain in the NY Times.
• Comey's own team understood that he was well outside of bounds when they were informed of what he had done. "Members of Comey’s senior leadership team used the adjectives “surprised,” “stunned,” “shocked,” and “disappointment” to describe their reactions to learning that Comey acted on his own to provide the contents of Memo 4, through Richman, to a reporter."
• Comey set a poor example for the 35,000 current members and the many former members of the FBI regarding handling of sensitive information.
• Other options were available to Comey that he did not take advantage of for handling these memos. "Comey had several other lawful options available to him"

 

[Kutnupe14]

The Inspector General report has come out on Comey's handling of memos from his time with the FBI. Very short version- he isn't being criminally charged based on this, but he violated FBI regs and his employment agreement repeatedly and knowingly. Wonder if they can rescind his pension or some other punishment?

DOJ Inspector General’s Report Blasts James Comey

Short version of information excepted from the OIG report:

• Comey considered his memos to be personal documents and not FBI property. "In view of the clarity of relevant provisions of law, policies, and Comey’s Employment Agreement, the assertion that the Memos were personal records was not reasonable. …"
• Comey violated policy and his employment agreement again when he shared those documents with attorneys and and his friend.
• Comey both claimed that the one memo was too sensitive to share with the OIG and pushed it to the public domain in the NY Times.
• Comey's own team understood that he was well outside of bounds when they were informed of what he had done. "Members of Comey’s senior leadership team used the adjectives “surprised,” “stunned,” “shocked,” and “disappointment” to describe their reactions to learning that Comey acted on his own to provide the contents of Memo 4, through Richman, to a reporter."
• Comey set a poor example for the 35,000 current members and the many former members of the organization he led regarding handling of sensitive information.
• Other options were available to Comey that he did not take advantage of for handling these memos. "Comey had several other lawful options available to him"

I don't think Comey was getting a pension anyways. Hell, he's already worth millions already, so it really wouldn't matter one way or the other. But just out of curiosity, if Comey had already reached the requirements to get a pension, what would be the justification for taking it away from him over broken policy rather than law? Well, other than sticking it to someone that people don't like.

 

[BugI02]

How about as the first step in ending our dual-track justice system wherein high officials get away with things that would have a line agent behind bars. Think of him like a sacrifice on the altar of fairness

 

[Phase2]

I don't know if they could do it, hence the question. The justification would be malfeasance and violation of employment policies and contract. Providing ongoing payment after such actions is unjust.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't know if they could do it, hence the question. The justification would be malfeasance and violation of employment policies and contract. Providing ongoing payment after such actions is unjust.

Unjust, how? Unjust is telling a person who has worked 20+ years that if they violate policy, they lose their pension (without it expressedly mentioned before hiring - which is still ridiculous). Given that just about every government worker I know has violated policy at some point or another, it with certainly be a great way to keep the budget down... let a guy work for 20 years, and right when he's about to retire, remind him about the policy violation he had back during his 5th year, and say "sorry, but you're not going to get a pension."

 

[Phase2]

These violations would fully justify termination if uncovered while he still worked there and far less egregious security violations have in fact cost others their career and pensions. It is indeed an injustice and an example of the two-tiered justice system.

This wasn't a random or unknowing violation at a random point of his career. These violations were in the final years of his career and intentional- when he was at the highest level of responsibility of the entire organization. These were also the years that had the largest impact on the size of his pension.