The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

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**** Rogers in the 24 and a half century!

 

[T.Lex]

Erin Gray occupied many of my thoughts during that era.

 

[nonobaddog]

Well, I can certainly relate that the most extensive use of the term involved seasons and tags, in that part of the country.

But, do you remember Reagan using the phrase? If so, what did you think?

Nope, I don't remember ever hearing about it.

Yes, bucks are revered around here even though a nice doe will probably be better eating. That is until the darn things start playing on the highways.

 

[T.Lex]

As a bit of an aside, Conner Prairie has a great program called Follow the North Star
https://www.connerprairie.org/explore/things-to-do/follow-the-north-star/

That middle school/junior high kids go through the area in groups. They don't use the n- word, but do instead refer to the boys as "bucks" and the girls as "breeders." Both are historically accurate references to black people.

 

[BugI02]

"Buck" has been a euphemism for "black guy" since at least Reconstruction. Geographically, it is probably most common in the South, and among older generations it is/was common.

I'm not sure how old you are, but... well... I don't think the timing matches up.

Oddly enough, in a cursory google search of the meaning of 'young buck' (first three pages) I can't find a single entry that mentions anything about race. All of the definitions speak to young man or teenager. Even the definitions on Urban Dictionary only refer to a black man when they speak about David Darnell Brown whose stage name is Young Buck

Who knew the dictionaries had been so thoroughly infiltrated

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oddly enough, in a cursory google search of the meaning of 'young buck' (first three pages) I can't find a single entry that mentions anything about race. All of the definitions speak to young man or teenager. Even the definitions on Urban Dictionary only refer to a black man when they speak about David Darnell Brown whose stage name is Young Buck

Who knew the dictionaries had been so thoroughly infiltrated

I've heard the expression (and used it like nonobaddog said - to describe a strong young man), as in, "man, I could use a couple of strapping young bucks to help me move this hide-a-bed" (or do other heavy work). The only time I've heard it in a racial context was when it was followed by the n-word. Then, the "strapping" part was usually left off. Guess it must be a regional/contextual thing.

 

[KG1]

Context and intent.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Context and intent.

True.

 

[nonobaddog]

I doubt if Reagan meant anything racial either, just an expression. But here it is 40 years later and the left is still regurgitating it when convenient. I guess that won't go away either since the left must create and nurture racism any way they can to keep the blacks in line and voting dumocrap.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I doubt if Reagan meant anything racial either, just an expression. But here it is 40 years later and the left is still regurgitating it when convenient. I guess that won't go away either since the left must create and nurture racism any way they can to keep the blacks in line and voting dumocrap.

Yep. Mom's advice still rings true... "If you keep picking at that, it will never heal."

 

[BugI02]

I've heard the expression (and used it like nonobaddog said - to describe a strong young man), as in, "man, I could use a couple of strapping young bucks to help me move this hide-a-bed" (or do other heavy work). The only time I've heard it in a racial context was when it was followed by the n-word. Then, the "strapping" part was usually left off. Guess it must be a regional/contextual thing.

I was born in suburban Philly, and though we moved to upstate NY we were back there a lot. From my aunts and uncles and my parents contemporaries I heard a fair amount of pretty racist dreck, but I never heard 'young buck' or 'strapping young buck' used at all. I have very limited experience in the south, though. Most of my exposure has been as a professional engineering consultant and the social dynamic is likely different and more formal

 

[nonobaddog]

Good point. I spent most of a year at Ft Gordon in Georgia and heard all sorts of racist crap from every angle too and never once heard the term "buck" used. Then I went to Germany, also in the Army and heard the same racist crap from every angle and about many races but never once heard the term "buck" used. Seems like it might be just a bit contrived.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Good point. I spent most of a year at Ft Gordon in Georgia and heard all sorts of racist crap from every angle too and never once heard the term "buck" used. Then I went to Germany, also in the Army and heard the same racist crap from every angle and about many races but never once heard the term "buck" used. Seems like it might be just a bit contrived.

What about a "buck private"?

 

[nonobaddog]

What about a "buck private"?

I heard my Dad and other WWII vets use that term but I don't remember hearing it in the Army in 1970-1972.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I heard my Dad and other WWII vets use that term but I don't remember hearing it in the Army in 1970-1972.

That's kind of the context I have too. I took it to mean a new recruit.

 

[Alpo]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Twitter apparently banning accounts that post pro-Voter ID memes.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1157635910277586947

https://gab.com/Kehar/posts/102551049013409850

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This is just a lie, though. Consumers are paying more due to tarrifs, China isn't paying a cent of them. He knows it's a lie, and hopes people are too stupid to research his claims.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157633906025402368

Things are going along very well with China. They are paying us Tens of Billions of Dollars, made possible by their monetary devaluations and pumping in massive amounts of cash to keep their system going. So far our consumer is paying nothing - and no inflation. No help from Fed!

 

[Alpo]

This is just a lie, though. Consumers are paying more due to tarrifs, China isn't paying a cent of them. He knows it's a lie, and hopes people are too stupid to research his claims.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157633906025402368

And this guy graduated with honors from Wharton? NFW

 

[ghitch75]

This is just a lie, though. Consumers are paying more due to tarrifs, China isn't paying a cent of them. He knows it's a lie, and hopes people are too stupid to research his claims.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157633906025402368

stop buying chinese crap and buy American and start making it here.......that is what he is after.....