The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[ArcadiaGP]

scorching hot take

careful touching it

 

[BugI02]

Exactly, that's why I said "I think."
Here, I'll give you an example of something you'd be more willing to accept. Remember when Obama talked about people "clinging" to there guns and Bibles? I immediately thought he was taking a distasteful swipe at rural conservative white people. That's at least what I "thought." There was no way to know, as that was not explicitly stated... but to people who were inclined to believe that, did so.

What do you think?

I think that Obama was at an SFO Dem fundraiser and likely thought he was among like minds. I think we can often see the real man when the mask slips. But what I think is [STRIKE]colored[/STRIKE] tinged by my personal biases and will, with the addition of $1.80US, get you a 'tall' at Starbucks

 

[Jludo]

scorching hot take

careful touching it

Don't put that bug in Trumps ear, I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to demolish the White house and rebuild it in his own gaudy image.

 

[nonobaddog]

It was already rebuilt under Truman.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

US House votes to 'strongly condemn President Donald Trump's racist comments'

 

[KG1]

US House votes to 'strongly condemn President Donald Trump's racist comments'

The Democrat majority also voted to break long standing House rules to do it.

 

[ghitch75]

House Dems formally condemn Trump remarks deemed 'racist,' after dramatic floor fight over Pelosi


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...demn-trumps-racist-remarks-floor-fight-pelosi


The unexpected mayhem in Congress left commentators and lawmakers stunned. "So, Democrats vote to break House rules and decorum, so that they can call Trump out on decorum. Surreal,"

 

[ghitch75]

but nothing he said was racist....

 

[nonobaddog]

The house is full of hypocritical m****rf****rs. I think there are plenty of voters who see this circus side-show for what it is and will vote for Trump.

 

[HoughMade]

Trump certainly tweeted something stupid. Super-stupid. Racist? I don’t know... but I tend to think not.

However, telling them to go back to their “own countries”? That goes against the entire ethos of America which is, in largest part, made up of people from elsewhere or whose roots are from elsewhere.

He could say “America, love it or leave it” if he wants and that would be less stupid....but “go back to your own countries”? I happen to think these are terrible legislators without America’s best interests at heart and who want to transform the U.S. into something uglier....but that being said, they are citizens. America is their country. They were duly elected.

There are dozens of ways to fight their horrible policies.....personal attacks like this? Stupid. Worst possible strategy (so far, but...)

No, it’s not 4D chess, its not locking down the base. He does not have to be this offensive to do that. He just can’t help but attack, childishly, when policy attacks would be fine. Plenty of people, like me, are not Trump lovers, but would probably vote for him versus any of the Dems....now I want him primaried (not that I hadn’t considered it before).

 

[d.kaufman]

Trump certainly tweeted something stupid. Super-stupid. Racist? I don’t know... but I tend to think not.

However, telling them to go back to their “own countries”? That goes against the entire ethos of America which is, in largest part, made up of people from elsewhere or whose roots are from elsewhere.

He could say “America, love it or leave it” if he wants and that would be less stupid....but “go back to your own countries”? I happen to think these are terrible legislators without America’s best interests at heart and who want to transform the U.S. into something uglier....but that being said, they are citizens. America is their country. They were duly elected.

There are dozens of ways to fight their horrible policies.....personal attacks like this? Stupid. Worst possible strategy (so far, but...)

No, it’s not 4D chess, its not locking down the base. He does not have to be this offensive to do that. He just can’t help but attack, childishly, when policy attacks would be fine. Plenty of people, like me, are not Trump lovers, but would probably vote for him versus any of the Dems....now I want him primaried (not that I hadn’t considered it before).

I dont believe he ever said go back to their own "countries"

This is the quote from his tweet

“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.”

 

[T.Lex]

At the risk of retconning 4d chess into the equation, while they wasted time with unnecessary resolutions, they were not spending time curtailing gun rights or proposing socialist policies.

I'm generally in favor of gridlock and "don't just do something, stand there" from my federal legislators. So, today wasn't that bad from that perspective.

 

[BugI02]

I'm wondering if he'll call out the Dems for not being able to condemn Ilhan's anti-semitism at all but being able to move with record speed to condemn him. More evidence (as if we needed it) that it isn't about inclusiveness it is all about partisan advantage

 

[HoughMade]

I dont believe he ever said go back to their own "countries"

This is the quote from his tweet

“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.”

Really?

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Context is everything.

 

[d.kaufman]

Really?

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Context is everything.

I did not see the first part of that tweet prior to now, but meh, im still good with it. All of those idiots are as anti America as it gets and as far as im concerned can go back to whatever country their lineage takes them or go ahead and pick some other Socialist country that already has the policies they so adore and want to shove down our throats!

F em all!!!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'd vote for this man

 

[KG1]

You have to. Look, I'm all aboard deporting illegals, making other NATO members pay their fair share, punishing currency manipulators, capping legal immigration, and a number of other things the president supports. On paper, and if the president didn't have a mouth, and I though he were smarter, I'd probably be one of his staunchest defenders. I simply can't get past his mouth, his tweets, and his general character. He's a demagogue, stoking the difference between American cultural passions to garner support. I know better than to ignore such things.

I think there are a lot of Trump supporters that are not to crazy about the way he conducts himself regarding tweet spats and such but are willing to overlook the shortcomings in character because they favor where the policies that you have mentioned are heading under his administration. Myself being one of them.

I'm more concerned about policy. If Trump were to fail to deliver on those policies then that would be a different story. I've always considered a Trump administration as a buffer to the gathering storm of socialist/open border agendas. That was my initial impetus for voting for him in 2016 and it probably will be the same in 2020.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I think there are a lot of Trump supporters that are not to crazy about the way he conducts himself regarding tweet spats and such but are willing to overlook the shortcomings in character because they favor where the policies that you have mentioned are heading under his administration. Myself being one of them.

I'm more concerned about policy. If Trump were to fail to deliver on those policies then that would be a different story. I've always considered a Trump administration as a buffer to the gathering storm of socialist/open border agendas. That was my initial impetus for voting for him in 2016 and it probably will be the same in 2020.

If the president said he was a racist, would you still support him? I asked this because I thought the obvious answer would be no. Tonight however I saw that question posed to Kris Kobach, and was shocked at his answer.

 

[KG1]

If the president said he was a racist, would you still support him? I asked this because I thought the obvious answer would be no. Tonight however I saw that question posed to Kris Kobach, and was shocked at his answer.

That would be a hypothetical that I don't believe would happen so there is no answer. I don't believe Trump is a racist and I would've left it at that. I believe you yourself have said previously that you were reluctant to call him a racist.

 

[nonobaddog]

Trump didn't say anything racist and he isn't racist.
Those four are the worst members of congress and deserve to be called out.
It does seem kind of stupid for the dumocraps to keep pointing out that they are all women of color.