Suspended Kraft food's worker opens fire on employees before being arrested.

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    The article referred to her coming back to the plant in a vehicle after about ten minutes. That's too little time to go buy a gun, but not too little to go home, get one, and come back, if she lived close.

    Plant was in Philly. Any bets on whether or not it was a "gun free zone"? (I mean that the plant had rules forbidding carry on pain of termination or laws in place forbidding the same with different penalties.)

    Pity. Any one of those employees that were kept from leaving (since they wouldn't call them hostages) could have ended this and saved the taxpayers the cost of a trial.

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    Eddie

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    Just think how convenient it would have been for her if she could have legally kept the gun in her car in the parking lot of her job. She wouldn't have had to waste ten mintues going to get it.

    How convenient would it have been to allow the employees the freedom to bear arms in their own defense?
     

    eldirector

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    How convenient would it have been to allow the employees the freedom to bear arms in their own defense?
    Yep. As per corp policy, she KNEW they would be unarmed, and easy targets. Had her fellow employees been allowed to carry, I doubt she would have tried this.

    Of course, we should not lose sight of one important fact: SHE is to blame for this. Not guns, not policies, not HR, etc.... SHE chose to go down this path.
     

    OneBadV8

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    Just think how convenient it would have been for her if she could have legally kept the gun in her car in the parking lot of her job. She wouldn't have had to waste ten mintues going to get it.


    Just think how convenient it would have been if all the other employees could go get a gun out of their cars and ended the incident. :dunno:
     

    ATM

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    Why would you be surprised? Gender doesn't have any bearing as to whether or not a person is capable of random acts of violence.

    It's surprising because males have dominated the violent shooter profile by a landslide historically.

    These statistics have little to do with capability. They really only capture actions.
     

    Fastmover

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    It's surprising because males have dominated the violent shooter profile by a landslide historically.

    These statistics have little to do with capability. They really only capture actions.

    Sure statistically it goes against what we have seen in the past, however it's certainly not surprising that a crazed and irrational woman decided to shoot her colleagues.
    There are some seriously irrational women out there, so what does surprise me is that the majority of shootings aren't by women. :):
     

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    Just think how convenient it would have been for her if she could have legally kept the gun in her car in the parking lot of her job. She wouldn't have had to waste ten mintues going to get it.

    Just think about how convenient it would have been for the employees to go to their cars the minute the shooting started and end the threat. :twocents: Infinitely faster than dialing 911 and waiting around for the police to show up while bullets are still flying.

    :n00b: I'm not quite sure what the point is here. :dunno: Either way, she grabbed a firearm from SOMEWHERE and put it to use. She knew that the majority of the employees would follow the rules and not have the means to defend themselves while at work, so she used the opportunity that was presented.
     

    Joe Williams

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    Just think how convenient it would have been for her if she could have legally kept the gun in her car in the parking lot of her job. She wouldn't have had to waste ten mintues going to get it.

    What a crock. More anti-gun crap. Think how convenient it would have been for those employees to have actually been able to have their guns with them to protect themselves, instead of being victimized by anti-freedom thugs who have convinced people that armed citizens are somehow a danger, who have been led to believe that the police will protect them. So far, the police have protected exactly zero people in active shooter incidents. Not their fault, the police cannot protect people in such incidents. Only armed citizens can. People who claim, or even insinuate, otherwise are mentally unbalance nutjobs with just as much blood of innocent, unarmed victims on their hands as the shooters themselves.
     

    Eddie

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    Just think about how convenient it would have been for the employees to go to their cars the minute the shooting started and end the threat. :twocents: Infinitely faster than dialing 911 and waiting around for the police to show up while bullets are still flying.

    :n00b: I'm not quite sure what the point is here. :dunno: Either way, she grabbed a firearm from SOMEWHERE and put it to use. She knew that the majority of the employees would follow the rules and not have the means to defend themselves while at work, so she used the opportunity that was presented.

    One of the articles said she was escorted off the property and then returned, drove her vehicle through a security barrier and then ran inside. A rule preventing her from having a gun at work would not have stopped her, it just made sure that any law abiding employees were disarmed.
     

    SavageEagle

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    I think she was upset over no more free Oscar Meyer Bacon. That's my theory.

    Seriously though, it's a real shame and I fell so sorry for the dead's families. They don't deserve this. However, it would have been nice if they would allow carry at work. I guarantee she wouldn't have done it.

    It also goes to show something else....

    People are so scared about losing their jobs, that if they get laid off, what do they have to lose if they can't find more work... At least, I'm willing to bet we see more of this....
     

    eldirector

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    It also goes to show something else....

    People are so scared about losing their jobs, that if they get laid off, what do they have to lose if they can't find more work... At least, I'm willing to bet we see more of this....

    I've been leaning another direction: People have such a feeling of entitlement, that when they don't get what they want (keep a job they are not qualified for) they fly off the handle.

    I compare it to a spoiled child and their toys. You take away their favorite toy, and they will break the rest for "revenge". They KNOW mommy or daddy will just get them more......
     
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