State reprocity question?

[BADWOLF]

I thought riprocity meant to reciprocate. So why do so many states honor other states licenses that don't honor theirs?

Example.. Indiana honers Illinois but Illinois does not honor Indiana's.

When it should be by definition - if your not going to honor are handgun license were not going to honor yours.

 

[possum_128]

Reciprocity means an agreement between two or more parties, ie, Indiana and Texas agree to accept each others license.

Honor means they accept other license even if the other does not honor ours, ie, we accept all other states as well as countries even though they may no accept ours.

 

[mcjon77]

Personally, I think the situation hurts Illinois more than it hurts the other states. In fact, I think that it helps the other states. If those states' government want people in Illinois to come across the border and shop (and generate sales tax revenue), it is a nice touch to allow folks from Illinois to shop there without the hassle of disarming. However, with Illinois' restrictions, I know several folks from Indiana that flat out refuse to enter into Illinois because their LTCH is not honored. Indiana (and Wisconsin, AND Iowa, And Missouri) get sales tax revenue from Illinois CCWers, while Illinois misses out from that revenue from its neighbors.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yeah, and let's not forget...if it were up to certain folks up, in, and around Chicago, even folks down state wouldn't even be able to carry. If it weren't for certain court decisions, they'd still be without even a means to ask permission to exercise their Constitutional right there--making it easy for out of towners to carry there will probably never be on their agenda.

 

[Dead Duck]

I thought riprocity meant to reciprocate. So why do so many states honor other states licenses that don't honor theirs?

Example.. Indiana honers Illinois but Illinois does not honor Indiana's.

When it should be by definition - if your not going to honor are handgun license were not going to honor yours.

This just means that Indiana stepped up and did the right thing.
Which means that Indiana is better than Illinois.......in every way.
And that means that Illinois SUCKS AND INDIANA RULES!

HOOSIERS
















No more coffee, thanks.

 

[Peter Potamus]

Yeah, and let's not forget...if it were up to certain folks up, in, and around Chicago, even folks down state wouldn't even be able to carry. If it weren't for certain court decisions, they'd still be without even a means to ask permission to exercise their Constitutional right there--making it easy for out of towners to carry there will probably never be on their agenda.

Very much this. There has been more positive change in Illinois in the last 5 years than we had seen in the previous 50 years. Change is going to come slowly, a generation at a time. Most of us will never see a day when we, as Indiana residents, can carry legally in Illinois. For the under age 30 members, it might happen for you in the future. For now, being happy for the Downstate Illinois residents is about the best it's going to get.

 

[BADWOLF]

I just figured that say a state like Illinois who doesn't honer any other states licenses. Would be more likely to change their stance and accept other states licenses if all the other states quit accepting theirs. Because of pressure from the likes of the NRA and pissed off Illinois gun owners. Who would then be isolated from the rest of the country, and not able to cross the border of their state.

Would that **** you off if it was Indiana acting like Illinois, wouldn't you wright to your state legislature and protest in the street till Indiana accepted other states licenses.

Or are Illinois gun owners to passive or to few for that?

 

[actaeon277]

I doubt other states refusing Illinois's licenses would mean anything to Illinois.

As it was, they only did what they were forced to do.
No more than that.

 

[BADWOLF]

I doubt other states refusing Illinois's licenses would mean anything to Illinois.

As it was, they only did what they were forced to do.
No more than that.

So your saying Illinois gun owners wouldn't care if they became isolated from the rest of the country?

 

[actaeon277]

So your saying Illinois gun owners wouldn't care if they became isolated from the rest of the country?

I'm saying the people that run the asylum called Illinois wouldn't care.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I'm saying the people that run the asylum called Illinois wouldn't care

He's right you know.

The only way Illinois will accept an Indiana license is through the force of a court decision or federal legislation.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

Well now, Indiana did the right thing. We honor all other states' licenses/permits.

Also, lets not forget there has been progress for us out-of-state carriers going through Illinois. Before, we had to stop at the state line, disarm, unload, lock away, then carry on through Illinois (careful to not stop for food or gas and drive 1mph under the speed limit on cruise control). Now, we just keep driving. You no longer have to disarm, unload and lock away. Just stay in the vehicle (or on the bike) and you're fine.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Also, lets not forget there has been progress for us out-of-state carriers going through Illinois.

Progress via a federal court order.

 

[invent11]

I agree - if you are legally licensed to carry in one state you should be licensed in all.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

He's right you know.

The only way Illinois will accept an Indiana license is through the force of a court decision or federal legislation....with subsequent accompanying court order

FIFY...

 

[HoughMade]

I thought riprocity meant to reciprocate. So why do so many states honor other states licenses that don't honor theirs?

Example.. Indiana honers Illinois but Illinois does not honor Indiana's.

When it should be by definition - if your not going to honor are handgun license were not going to honor yours.

For whatever faults it has Indiana's gvt. has a higher respect for freedom than Illinois'. Why would this not carry over to residents of other states?

 

[rhino]

"Reciprocity" is a term that is often misused. Indiana typically does not enter into reciprocal agreements with other states because Indiana already recognizes licenses and permits from all other 49 states plus foreign countries.

Some states require such agreements for the same courtesy. Some states like Tennessee do both. They honor other states' license and permits, but for some states they have reciprocity. This confuses some people when they look at the Tennessee web site because they don't see reciprocity with Indiana. They then conclude that they can't carry in Tennessee with their Indiana LTCH, which is incorrect. Reciprocity on the case of Tennessee is not required.

 

[Alamo]

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When it should be by definition - if your not going to honor are handgun license were not going to honor yours.

So who are you putting the screws to by doing this? The apparatchiks that run Illinois government, or 2A lovin' Illinois gunowners? Hint -- the apparatchiks would love it if Indiana would implement your policy.

 

[JettaKnight]

I thought riprocity meant to reciprocate. So why do so many states honor other states licenses that don't honor theirs?

Example.. Indiana honers Illinois but Illinois does not honor Indiana's.

When it should be by definition - if your not going to honor are handgun license were not going to honor yours.

Indiana does not have reciprocity - we have a blanket acceptance of other state's licenses.


Tit-for-tat measures by gov't only hurts the citizens caught in the middle.

 

[Dosproduction]

When will it be all 50 accept all 50? Its killing me to wait.