Staff study on interactions between police and legally armed citizens

[88GT]

My, how things have deteriorated.

You might be the exception to the rule regarding my hypothesis about females carrying.

 

[ghuns]

The Leadership Academy is a course to improve oneself and hopefully make them a better leader...

That's cop talk for improving one's curbstomp technique and getting better at teaching said techniques to the rookies.

I coulda just said, tagged for interest, but what fun would that be.

 

[Alamo]

If you are interested in encounters outside of Indiana then maybe I have a contribution you can use.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

If you are interested in encounters outside of Indiana then maybe I have a contribution you can use.

I can't really use them because I'm focusing on Indiana laws. Thanks for the offer.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Um, thanks? I haven't been promoted, but hope to be by the end of the year. The Leadership Academy is a course to improve oneself and hopefully make them a better leader, but has nothing to do with promotion. I still appreceiate the fireworks, I love fireworks.

I don't get it

I generally consider it a safe bet that they aren't going to pay for training to make a person fit for promotion without intent to do so within the reasonably near future--therefore I have confidence that good things are coming!

 

[Rayne]

Frank are you still looking for more interactions that disarmed a legally carrying Indiana citizen by a officer? If so, I could help you out as long as there isn't a time restriction on when it happened. My experience was 20 years ago.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Frank are you still looking for more interactions that disarmed a legally carrying Indiana citizen by a officer? If so, I could help you out as long as there isn't a time restriction on when it happened. My experience was 20 years ago.

No time restriction. Please PM me your email address.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

If anyone has suggestions of survey questions that should be asked to police officers concerning their thoughts and practices when it comes to interacting with legally armed citizens, feel free to post them. Please keep them serious, and related to the topic.

 

[Birds Away]

My question is if they specifically check for the LTCH when running a D.L.? If so, how does that change, if at all, how they conduct the interaction?

 

[VERT]

Do you feel that handling unholstered handguns is a unsafe practice?

 

[jumpjet]

My question is if they specifically check for the LTCH when running a D.L.? If so, how does that change, if at all, how they conduct the interaction?

Based on what I've been told by a LEO, they don't have to check as a separate action when running the DL. It comes up automatically when the run the DL.

 

[the1kidd03]

If anyone has suggestions of survey questions that should be asked to police officers concerning their thoughts and practices when it comes to interacting with legally armed citizens, feel free to post them. Please keep them serious, and related to the topic.

That would depend on what you're trying to accomplish with the survey ultimately. I'd be glad to help you formulate questions to help with the cause if you'd like.

 

[GNRPowdeR]

How does your demeanor change when someone informs you that they have a firearm / weapon in the vehicle before you ask if they are armed?

How can I (as a legally armed citizen) help you see that I'm not a threat? -- I realize that the job requires a LEO to view everyone as a "potential threat"

 

[the1kidd03]

If you have access to or can obtain records of how many offenders have had their LTCH at the time of their arrest, as well as the details as to the nature of their offense and so forth, you would provide undeniable grounds for substantiating that the far majority of LTCH holders cannot be reasonably suspected of felonious acts. I think that this basis of information will reach much farther in your effort than anything.

If they don't track such data, you should be seeking out (read: getting them interested in changing) why they're not. If you're not tracking such data, then you're not providing a basis to identify areas for improvement and therefore likely, are not improving efficiently.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Do you feel that handling unholstered handguns is a unsafe practice?

Or more directly, how is a properly holstered firearm considered a threat in and of itself in a routine stop for a moving violation with no other cues as to the individual(s) being a threat? (plates are clean, no odor of drugs at the window, not suspected of DUI, etc)

if you cant handle your suspect being lawfully armed, shouldnt you be better assigned to directing traffic or as a metermaid instead?

 

[Smokepole]

Do you feel that handling unholstered handguns is a unsafe practice?

It is proven time over time that the longer/more a loaded weapon is handled outside of it's holster the more likely the chance of an accidental discharge. Even cops are not immune as we have seen and many have made fun of many times on this forum. So, absent any RAS that the individual is/may be a potential threat the best place for a gun is to remain in it's holster. Common Sense

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Good questions. I will use most of them in the survey I will be sending out to officers in the near future.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

If you have access to or can obtain records of how many offenders have had their LTCH at the time of their arrest, as well as the details as to the nature of their offense and so forth, you would provide undeniable grounds for substantiating that the far majority of LTCH holders cannot be reasonably suspected of felonious acts. I think that this basis of information will reach much farther in your effort than anything.

If they don't track such data, you should be seeking out (read: getting them interested in changing) why they're not. If you're not tracking such data, then you're not providing a basis to identify areas for improvement and therefore likely, are not improving efficiently.

I don't know if that information is tracked by IMPD, but it may be by ISP since they are the record-keepers for the LTCH. Excellent suggestion.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Why do some officers feel it necessary to run the numbers on firearms of those with an LTCH and then disassemble them?

 

[slowG]

Is someone in their right to not hand over any of their legal personal items?