Sobriety Checkpoints

[Shadow8088]

simply put.. i don't equate a DUI checkpoint with infringement of my 4th amendment rights.. stopping me, pulling me from the car and rifling through my pockets and then my car? different story.. the word "unreasonable" is open to interpretation... what you find unreasonable, others don't... and vice versa... stop-and-frisk crap that goes on in NY? complete infringement.. hopefully that BS gets shut down soon...

 

[IndyDave1776]

simply put.. i don't equate a DUI checkpoint with infringement of my 4th amendment rights.. stopping me, pulling me from the car and rifling through my pockets and then my car? different story.. the word "unreasonable" is open to interpretation... what you find unreasonable, others don't... and vice versa... stop-and-frisk crap that goes on in NY? complete infringement.. hopefully that BS gets shut down soon...

How do you figure? 'Because you are there' is not a reasonable suspicion of anything that would justify stopping anyone. If they don't have a specific reason to stop a specific person, they need to go **** up a rope.

 

[LEaSH]

All I ask is to be stopped if only there is probable cause to stop me.

 

[Bang-bang]

The check points are a stop and frisk. Don't think the officer is going to be fun either. A happy check point is NOT part of their plan. Need lawyers at each point, like it's a crash scene. Turn on your camera !!! and get extra points with a happy camper!!

 

[MTubbs1]

Maybe I will get lucky and avoid this on my home from work.

Howard County planning sobriety checkpoint - Kokomo Perspective: News

 

[printcraft]

Maybe I will get lucky and avoid this on my home from work.

Howard County planning sobriety checkpoint - Kokomo Perspective: News

I'll keep an eye out.

 

[Rookie]

Markland and Courtland seems to be their favorite spot to set up. You can easily avoid it. Simply turn before the checkpoint. There's no law stating you have to go through.

 

[printcraft]

Markland and Courtland seems to be their favorite spot to set up. You can easily avoid it. Simply turn before the checkpoint. There's no law stating you have to go through.

By the CVS and the laundry? Yeah, I go that way every day on the way home from the shop.
They had one (that I bypassed) at Alto and Dixon a few years back.

 

[Jludo]

Markland and Courtland seems to be their favorite spot to set up. You can easily avoid it. Simply turn before the checkpoint. There's no law stating you have to go through.

I remember seeing a story a while back about a town that had outlawed sobriety checkpoints so the police put out signs saying 'checkpoint ahead' with there not actually being one. Then when cars would turn off or turn around to avoid the non existent checkpoint the police pulled them over claiming that action itself was probable cause.

 

[ghuns]

I would find these checkpoints to be more tolerable if they handed out prizes if you passed their test. You know, a Meijer gift card, gas cards, $1 off Big Macs, packages of bacon... Just a little something for our time being stolen and our rights being stomped on. I don't think that's too much to ask. Maybe some kind of game show where the sober drivers compete against the drunks they have caught in mental and physical challenges. If the drunks win, they get their sentence reduced, no, better yet, if the drunk wins, sober guy has to give him a ride home. If the sober guy wins, he gets the drunks vehicle, and contents.

I could point them in the direction of a dozen bars, in St. Joe Co. alone, that they could set up within a 1/4 mile of, that would net them way more obviously drunk drivers than any sobriety checkpoint will ever catch.

 

[hookedonjeep]

Show me your papahzs......

 

[dirtfarmerz]

But where will it stop? Why not have everyone blow into a breathalyzer ala 40 year old virgin, to be able to startup their vehicle?

Another step towards letting the gov be responsible, and not the individual.

Drunk drivers should be stopped by making the punishment so severe that it makes the crime less of an occurrence. Checkpoints are not the answer. The highlighted portion of Double T's comment is the point. It won't stop. We see these types of events more and more. These actions alone don't seem so bad, but our freedom is eroding a little at a time and we are accepting it.

What actions will be allowed when Obamacare comes around? Forced immunizations or home inspections for food violations? We are being conditioned to accept an overbearing government. It won't stop. They have plans for us...

 

[rambone]

HOBART, IN -- The Hobart Police Department set up a roadblock on a main road which forced all drivers into the parking lot of a private business, where they were questioned, ID'ed, and searched with dogs.

Drivers were prevented from traveling freely down a public road, and forced by government agents to prove their innocence. Without any probable cause whatsoever, everyone was stopped, had flashlights shined in their faces and in their cars, had their papers checked.

[video=youtube;wzoFrEyI6XY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzoFrEyI6XY[/video]

 

[1861navy]

If sobriety checkpoints, are okay, and probable cause is driving at an hour when more drunks are out, or near bars where more drunks are. Then why is there no probable cause to random drive by checkpoints in the hood? " excuse me sir, are you planning on pulling a drive by?" Or near pawn shops, where there is a "higher chance" that gun would be used for violence.
Also, why not have checkpoints for tobacco outside any place of business? I mean gosh you might go in there and light up and give someone cancer.
On a side note I also wonder how many people have had to be somewhere asap and these checkpoints caused a death, you know, grannies in the car, possibly having a heart attack, your taking to the hospital and low and behold you have to WAIT, you do thinking you can save a life. Well only if you trade your grannies life.
Yes the above hypothetical situation is a metaphor for trading something you love and care about(rights) for saving a life, or(security).
I also agree with Kirk on putting them in the neighborhoods of judges and such. The bassackwardness needs to stop.

 

[w_ADAM_d88]

I'm going to bump this back up with this most recent notice that I just saw. Get ready for your rights to be violated!! And remember... the only statement you should make... "Why am I being detained?"

Indiana State Police To Conduct D.U.I. Checkpoint In Hamilton County | Pendleton-Gazette.com

 

[JollyMon]

I'm going to bump this back up with this most recent notice that I just saw. Get ready for your rights to be violated!! And remember... the only statement you should make... "Why am I being detained?"

Indiana State Police To Conduct D.U.I. Checkpoint In Hamilton County | Pendleton-Gazette.com

Here are the locations of where they normally occur in the Ham.

Hamilton County, Indiana / Sobriety Checkpoint Data

 

[drillsgt]

It's for the children.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Drivers were prevented from traveling freely down a public road, and forced by government agents to prove their innocence. Without any probable cause whatsoever, everyone was stopped, had flashlights shined in their faces and in their cars, had their papers checked.

FYI, that's more nonsense. If you don't want to go through the checkpoint simply turn off before it.

Still, I'd love to see the General Assembly pass the Freeman Law, quickest way to have roadblocks ruled unconstitutional.

 

[ATOMonkey]

FYI, that's more nonsense. If you don't want to go through the checkpoint simply turn off before it.

Still, I'd love to see the General Assembly pass the Freeman Law, quickest way to have roadblocks ruled unconstitutional.

Avoiding a roadblock is probable cause for drunk driving.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Avoiding a roadblock is probable cause for drunk driving.

Statute?