Sobriety Checkpoint leads to Forcible Extraction

[steveh_131]

when you have impaired your own judgement, how can you judge if you are being safe?

When I'm not even doing anything to hurt anyone, how can YOU judge if I am being safe?

 

[jsharmon7]

Carrying a gun has inherent risk to everyone around you.

So does drinking and driving.

What is the difference?

LOL!

How is carrying a gun causing an inherent risk to everyone? Does this stuff make sense in your head before you post it?

 

[steveh_131]

LOL!

How is carrying a gun causing an inherent risk to everyone? Does this stuff make sense in your head before you post it?

Maybe I don't know how to use it properly. Maybe there is an ND. Maybe I have rage issues and might use it for no reason. There's lots of potential victims.

 

[jsharmon7]

Maybe I don't know how to use it properly. Maybe there is an ND. Maybe I have rage issues and might use it for no reason. There's lots of potential victims.

Wow...

 

[steveh_131]

Just being drunk carries risks to the people around you. We could always ban drinking. Wow, what a novel idea! I think I may pursue this idea. I just need to think of a name for it...

 

[rjstew317]

Just being drunk carries risks to the people around you. We could always ban drinking. Wow, what a novel idea! I think I may pursue this idea. I just need to think of a name for it...

 

[UncleMike]

Maybe I don't know how to use it properly. Maybe there is an ND. Maybe I have rage issues and might use it for no reason. There's lots of potential victims.

"Maybe", and "What if", should be stricken from the English Language.
They are guess work, and supposition, on the part of the speaker.
They carry no value in a logical conversation.

 

[steveh_131]

"Maybe", and "What if", should be stricken from the English Language.
They are guess work, and supposition, on the part of the speaker.
They carry no value in a logical conversation.

Kind of like saying "MAYBE" this guy isn't able to drive safely right now so we should throw him in jail?

 

[rjstew317]

Kind of like saying "MAYBE" this guy isn't able to drive safely right now so we should throw him in jail?

so are you saying the alcohol doesn't impair cognitive function or motor skills?

 

[UncleMike]

Kind of like saying "MAYBE" this guy isn't able to drive safely right now so we should throw him in jail?

Actually more like,
"MAYBE" you need a dose of reality instead of living in a make believe world of Flubber and Fairy Dust.

Life's not fair.
Get used to it!

 

[INGunGuy]

Of course on the local LEO forum, the people attempting to live by the 4th Amendment were a bunch of A-holes and the LEO's are all for the LEO's in the video. I have to say this, the bunch of JBT's on the local LEO forum are some of the most Constitution hating people I have EVER had the opportunity to communicate with. If you disagree with ANY of them, you are then called a dumbs*** or a troll. I really find it kind of funny to read all the BS they love to spew... I have NOT watched the video so I am not going to make my own observations.

INGunGuy

 

[steveh_131]

so are you saying the alcohol doesn't impair cognitive function or motor skills?

So does working a 12 hour day and driving home tired.

The real question is how much alcohol is required for an individual to be an unsafe driver.

You can't answer that question. Nobody can. So I say leave it up to the individual and leave him responsible for the consequences.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So does working a 12 hour day and driving home tired.

The real question is how much alcohol is required for an individual to be an unsafe driver.

You can't answer that question. Nobody can. So I say leave it up to the individual and leave him responsible for the consequences.

studies have shown that .08 is the level that the vast majority of ppl are impaired enough to be a threat while driving. Sure there are those that can handle substancially more, but the law can't wavier based on the individual. A standard must be set.
For instance, I'm betting a US Army Ranger can sit on his back porch and shoot soda cans off the roof of a elementary school, 300 yrds away, and never be considered a threat to the children playing below at the playground. You or I, not so much... needless to say both instances should carry a criminal recklessness charge.

 

[HICKMAN]

Food is more dangerous... ban all food.

 

[INGunGuy]

I think the issue is the Constitutionality of these "sobriety checkpoints". I realize that the Politically Correct Supreme court who is in the pocket of the highest bidder will take away all of our Constitutional Rights eventually all in the name of safety. I cant specifically comment because I dont have the stats in front of me, but I have read somewhere that these checkpoints do nothing to curtail drinking and driving, and there are VERY FEW arrests due to these checkpoints.

INGunGuy

 

[ElsiePeaRN]

Life's not fair.
Get used to it!

I'm guessing this is OK as long as you get to decide who it's not fair to. As long as you are on the other side of that, no problem.

 

[UncleMike]

I'm guessing this is OK as long as you get to decide who it's not fair to. As long as you are on the other side of that, no problem.

I never got to decide.
The Courts and the Legislatures made those decisions for me.

 

[UncleMike]

Of course on the local LEO forum, the people attempting to live by the 4th Amendment were a bunch of A-holes and the LEO's are all for the LEO's in the video. I have to say this, the bunch of JBT's on the local LEO forum are some of the most Constitution hating people I have EVER had the opportunity to communicate with. If you disagree with ANY of them, you are then called a dumbs*** or a troll. I really find it kind of funny to read all the BS they love to spew... I have NOT watched the video so I am not going to make my own observations.

INGunGuy

WHAT???
You went to a Law Enforcement Forum and you were surprised that the Members there support Law Enforcement???
I suppose you'd be surprised if the INGO Members supported the Second Amendement too?
Unbelievable!!

 

[ElsiePeaRN]

I never got to decide.
The Courts and the Legislatures made those decisions for me.

So, should people not try to make things right or just accept bad laws because "life is not fair"?

 

[Expat]

If this was already posted, sorry. I didn't see it. It is the Indiana .gov FAQ for these.
ICJI: Impaired Driving Prevention FAQ