Slashing the CLEO red tape

[ghuns]

Should make thing a little easier...

Slashing Red Tape: ATF Brings You One Step Closer to Your Next Machine Gun - Gun News at Guns.com

 

[GBuck]

Well, it is a step in the right direction.

 

[ctbreitwieser]

I wonder how reliable of a source this really is. Its good if it is true, but sucks for all the people that got a trust for that reason alone. At least they still get the other benifits it offers.

 

[Beowulf]

I wonder how reliable of a source this really is. Its good if it is true, but sucks for all the people that got a trust for that reason alone. At least they still get the other benifits it offers.

I heard the same thing from the Class 3 that I bought my MAC from. Just a question of when the new forms will be available.

 

[Beowulf]

But I will point out that, at least here in Indy, the police were never the problem. I got my paperwork signed and back within a week and the only reason it took that long was that I submitted right before New Years and they were short staffed due to vacations.

It's the ATF that is taking 6+ months to process the paperwork, not local law enforcement. So, unless you live somewhere where your local CLEO refuses to sign off on the paperwork, this won't save you much time either way.

 

[Stainer]

But I will point out that, at least here in Indy, the police were never the problem. I got my paperwork signed and back within a week and the only reason it took that long was that I submitted right before New Years and they were short staffed due to vacations.

Well as was pointed out in another thread by another member. There have been a lot of recent changes within the upper echelon of the IMPD so getting these signed might take a little longer than usual. I can't confirm or deny that, but that is probably a logical problem

 

[Beowulf]

Well as was pointed out in another thread by another member. There have been a lot of recent changes within the upper echelon of the IMPD so getting these signed might take a little longer than usual. I can't confirm or deny that, but that is probably a logical problem

Hmm, didn't know that. Well, probably just as well they get taken out of the loop anyway. All they are doing is basically the same thing as the instant check anyway, so the Feds can run that just as easily.

Though, I wonder how that will work for states that don't allow certain NFA items (like Indiana and SBSs). Are the Feds going to catch all the state limits? Or are they going to process it without checking and then let people end up committing felonies in the states they live in?

 

[lucky4034]

That is fantastic... it took me nearly A MONTH and 3 phone calls!! YES... A MONTH!!! to get my form filled out and ready for pick up from our local CLEO here in Elkhart. (just picked it up today actually)

Its bad enough the ATF is gonna take 6-8months to do their part... but to have the CLEO hold me up from getting the form in the mail was horrendous.

 

[vitamink]

Well as was pointed out in another thread by another member. There have been a lot of recent changes within the upper echelon of the IMPD so getting these signed might take a little longer than usual. I can't confirm or deny that, but that is probably a logical problem

I was that tremendous member.

 

[Scutter01]

Yeah, because the CLEO step is the worst bottleneck in the whole process.

 

[ctbreitwieser]

Yeah, because the CLEO step is the worst bottleneck in the whole process.

Its one less bottleneck that has to be dealt with. Like Lucky said, he had to wait a month just for CLEO sign off, and some dont even make it past that, i think its a great thing that theyre cutting out an un-needed section of the process.

 

[Amattern]

Has anything been said when this will go into effect?

 

[Scutter01]

Its one less bottleneck that has to be dealt with. Like Lucky said, he had to wait a month just for CLEO sign off, and some dont even make it past that, i think its a great thing that theyre cutting out an un-needed section of the process.

Agreed, but we already have a viable workaround in the form of a Trust. While I'm happy to see steps taken to eliminate this necessity, I'd rather see the ATF stop adding one day of wait for every three days that pass. They have the power to make dramatic and sweeping changes to the process that makes it simpler, cheaper, and more efficient and it requires no additional legislation. They choose not to for reasons of their own. Why they're choosing to throw us this rather pointless bone is a mystery.

 

[hondatech2k2]

I agree with most, the thing that stops me from getting suppressors is the wait time. ATF needs to get off their faces and do their job in a timely manner. How many of us would still be employed if we decided we wanted to take 6-8 months to do something that realistically should take only a few weeks. The rule should be.....if you can pass for a LTCH then you should be cleared with only a few minor steps to get NFA.

 

[shooter521]

Yeah, because the CLEO step is the worst bottleneck in the whole process.

In some jurisdictions it is; we are fortunate that most CLEOs in IN are cool about signing off on the forms.

 

[dubsac]

Keep the sign off and hire 40-50 more examiners

 

[vitamink]

i hear that

 

[samot]

Well I'll B !!!!!!!

Coulda swore someone mentiond this bout 3 months ago ?

 

[Steve B]

The best solution to fix the wait times would be to repeal the NFA. Something that should have never existed in the first place. Don't look for it to happen though. With the amount of cash they're making from the tax there's no reasonable excuse for the times it currently takes. It's all about controlling the citizens. Something our government isn't supposed to do.

 

[Bill B]

It's pretty common knowledge that our CLEO won't sign off on nfa items, and it's not worth it to me to set up a trust.