They should be executed like horse thieves.Someone who got caught with drugs, cheated on their taxes, or deposited more than $10k cash at one time? Sure. Someone who carjacked someone at gunpoint? nah.
I agree with the past few posts. It depends. However, lines have to be drawn somewhere. I personally feel that a person should be allowed to make a mistake in their life and be given the opportunity to redeem themselves. If a person commits a felony, does the time, proves to society that they are now responsible, I have no problem with them owning a firearm. If they make a mistake twice, fool me once. But I also feel that penalties for crimes aren't as severe as they should be.
felons - you lose a LOT of rights, including the right to vote. this is the grey area of the matter. truly, the right to vote should be counted right up there with the right to bear arms. equally powerful weapons. if thats the case, you are to forfeit ALL rights. the constitution no longer applies to you.
as a law-abiding citizens i can make a lot of choices for myself. some poor,some good. all of them amount to what is my current and future life. i have little sympathy for those whose who refuse to learn from their mistakes. one shot, k you screwed up. you get a second chance. thats it. period.
If they are not in prison shouldn't that qualify for redeemed? Sentence served? What needs to change is the definition of a felony. How about everyone take a minute and see what a felony was say 125 years ago.
Depends on what?
We are all 2nd class citizens, whether we choose to believe it or not.You do realize that allowing the creation of a second-class citizenship opens the door for criminalizing more behaviors until the only people who are not 'criminals' are like those at the top of the Chicago machine who are not better but rather granted de facto immunity from the law, and the second-class citizenship gives rise to a new feudalism creating a society in which I guarantee you that you will hate to live.
What felony were they in prison for? How dangerous was the person replacing them in the prison? If they are that dangerous execute them. The State does not want to control overcrowding or crime or we wouldn't be throwing people in jail for what should be misdemeanors. Like I said up thread, what was considered a felony 125 years ago. If you are to dangerous to be free you should be locked up or dead and All Free Men should have their rightsIf a felon is not in prison should that automatically allow that individual the right to a firearm? No, we see this many of times in states with over crowding.... felons are released after serving fractions of there sentences and this is why they are repeat offenders. Should that person be allowed to have a firearm, just because the state cant control crime and over crowding? Perhaps, all situations are different, all felons are different. I think if a person serves a full sentence and did their time, they should have the right to own a firearm.
I disagree with that. He should be dead.If that person is free of all legal restrictions, Prison time, halfway house, probation, parole. Then by defacto in the eyes of the law they are innocent and should be accorded all the rights and priveledges due citizen.
It is a horrible slippery slope to leave a person with fractionalized rights. You are either entitled to the rights or not.
I dont care if Joe Schmoe shot and killed 2 people. He was sentenced to a term of 15-25 by a jury of his peers and served 15-25 or was adjudged to have paid his penance for his crime and released by another jury of his peers.
That person is now no more a criminal than I.
They should be executed like horse thieves.
I disagree with that. He should be dead.
Bunnykid is right on the money here.
Violent criminals when the country was being created (up to about 1900 or so) didn't get a whole lot of second chances once caught.
If you are so dangerous that you cannot be let out into society, you should not be let out into society. Either by prison, or by death sentence. (like 150 years ago).
The other issue is that in our "kinder gentler" society, we won't execute a felon. But we'll take away their ability to get a job, live in a decent place, vote, or defend themselves. Then act all surprised that they stay criminals.
felons - you lose a LOT of rights, including the right to vote. this is the grey area of the matter. truly, the right to vote should be counted right up there with the right to bear arms. equally powerful weapons. if thats the case, you are to forfeit ALL rights. the constitution no longer applies to you.
as a law-abiding citizens i can make a lot of choices for myself. some poor,some good. all of them amount to what is my current and future life. i have little sympathy for those whose who refuse to learn from their mistakes. one shot, k you screwed up. you get a second chance. thats it. period.
If a felon is not in prison should that automatically allow that individual the right to a firearm? No, we see this many of times in states with over crowding.... felons are released after serving fractions of there sentences and this is why they are repeat offenders. Should that person be allowed to have a firearm, just because the state cant control crime and over crowding? Perhaps, all situations are different, all felons are different. I think if a person serves a full sentence and did their time, they should have the right to own a firearm.
This may sound extreme, but I don't think anyone should be denied the right of owning a firearm. It seems to me, that if someone wants to hurt another person with a firearm, they aren't going to let a little thing like illegal possesion stop them.
My Answer is definately. Now here is the reasons why I say that. If, and that is the largest two letter word in the english language, this person has served his time, and is released without restriction, he/she has been restored to society. They should be allowed to be Citizens, not a part of some subculture that it OK to discriminate against.
Now, to the IF again. IF this person is not deemed good enough to be a full citizen, THEY SHOULD NOT BE OUT OF PRISON.
This, I know, is not a popular view. It causes many people, even 'Freedom Loving Gun Owners' here on INGO to get uptight. But thats the way I view it.
The justice system of today does not work. Its about warm and fuzzies to make the sheep feel safe and the keep the prisoners pacified. It needs to go back to being a form of punishment. There are some criminals that I personally think should never see the light of day again.
So, thats my story and I'm stickin to it.