Sen. Coats flipping on background checks! Wants to see the details - CONTACT HIM

[N8RV]

I contacted the IN GOP when the announcement was made that they were backing Dan Coats for the US Senate, despite the variety of new blood vying for the job. "WHY support a has-been, career politician over someone without a track record in Washington?" I asked them. I received no reply.

That's when I started mailing back their junk mail in their postage-paid envelopes.

The RINOs, even at the state level, already have their horses picked for the next election.

 

[PMPORTER]

Sent to Senator Coats !

 

[dlbrown75]

here is the letter I sent courtesy of Nutnfancy;
Dear Senator:

I strongly encourage you to oppose the so-called Universal Background Checks (UBC) for gun
purchasers. On any level, this is a bad idea. I will not achieve its stated objectives and will bring into play
many serious abuses against US Civil Liberties. In discussion of the UBC please consider the following:

1) We already have a universal background checking system in place: the NICS. All personal
information is reported through NICS and approve by checking existing Federal Criminal databases. The
vast majority of guns sold in this country are ran through NICS. The system, like all govt programs, functions
poorly and has blocked 10000s of legitimate buyers of firearms; good people denied their rights. Moreover
this system itself is an invasion of individual privacy and, contrary to federal law, the provided information has
been integrated into illegal databases by the ATF. Meanwhile violent criminals do whatever they’ve always
done: stealing or obtaining their guns through illegal sources. UBC will not affect criminals just as the current
system generally does not.

2) The real intent of UBC is to track, control, limit, ration, outlaw many varieties of guns, and
ultimately confiscate personally held firearms. Even if that’s not the intention of your Congress, those
that follow you can easily change this. Private gun transfers should remain legal and untracked by any govt
entity since doing so does not decrease crime. And yet proponents know UBC cannot work without creating a
National Firearms Registry. They will demand national gun registration with attached felonies for noncompliance
as they
seek
to
identify,
track,
and
eliminate
personal
firearms.
With
this
system
in place,

politicians
can
“call
in”
whatever
guns,
through
current
political
expediency,
are
determined
to
be
“evil.”
In

this
expanded
UBC
system
criminals,
of course,
will
be unaffected.

Bad
guys
can
illegally
manufacture

dangerous
devices
anytime
they
want
irregardless
of law.



3)

Many
abuses
of
the
UBC
system
will
ensue.
The
creation
of an
all
encompassing
Federal
Gun
Owner

Database
will be
used
to
the
destruction
of
liberty
and
privacy
for
all Americans.

Integration
of
contrived

medical
disqualifiers
will
be
abused
(like
treatment
for
depression
after
the
loss of
a
family
member
a decade

ago!),
extra
fees
and
taxes
will
be
assessed,
dissemination
of gun
owner
data
in public
forums
could
occur

(leading
to
theft
and
murders),
integration
of national
ID
systems
and
political
classifications
could
be

integrated…just
to
name
a few.
The
government
has
no business
tracking
this
information
and
it’s
a
clear

violation
of
the
2
nd
Amendment..

True assistance to gun violence can be accomplished in two simple ways 1) Strengthen American value
systems instead of tearing them down. Support families and their instruction of their children. Not by liberal
government educational systems but by families. This WILL reduce gun crime. Good children, taught be
loving guardians, grow up to be good people, protecting life not destroying it. 2) Eliminate gun free zones
with national legislation. Civilian gun ownership has to be allowed in all reasonable venues to eliminate
these mass shootings: schools, shopping areas, churches, stadiums, etc. Immediate armed response by both
LE and armed civilians stops these shootings, proven in recent history.

UBC will prove to be catastrophic for America. I truly appreciate your support in defending the Second
Amendment and will continually reward you with my support and that of my audience in social media.
Likewise if I find it lacking I will strive to make sure you are not re-elected and your political career is ruined.





Thank you for your consideration,

 

[dlbrown75]

I dont know why it posted that way. Did not do that on the email I sent.

 

[gunworks321]

here is the letter I sent courtesy of Nutnfancy;
Dear Senator:

I strongly encourage you to oppose the so-called Universal Background Checks (UBC) for gun
purchasers. On any level, this is a bad idea. I will not achieve its stated objectives and will bring into play
many serious abuses against US Civil Liberties. In discussion of the UBC please consider the following:

1) We already have a universal background checking system in place: the NICS. All personal
information is reported through NICS and approve by checking existing Federal Criminal databases. The
vast majority of guns sold in this country are ran through NICS. The system, like all govt programs, functions
poorly and has blocked 10000s of legitimate buyers of firearms; good people denied their rights. Moreover
this system itself is an invasion of individual privacy and, contrary to federal law, the provided information has
been integrated into illegal databases by the ATF. Meanwhile violent criminals do whatever they’ve always
done: stealing or obtaining their guns through illegal sources. UBC will not affect criminals just as the current
system generally does not.

2) The real intent of UBC is to track, control, limit, ration, outlaw many varieties of guns, and
ultimately confiscate personally held firearms. Even if that’s not the intention of your Congress, those
that follow you can easily change this. Private gun transfers should remain legal and untracked by any govt
entity since doing so does not decrease crime. And yet proponents know UBC cannot work without creating a
National Firearms Registry. They will demand national gun registration with attached felonies for noncompliance
as they seek to identify, track, and eliminate personal firearms. With this
system in place, politicians can “call in” whatever guns, through current
political expediency, are determined to be “evil.” In this expanded UBC
system criminals, of course, will be unaffected. Bad guys can illegally
manufacture dangerous devices anytime they want irregardless of law.

3) Many abuses of the UBC system will ensue. The creation of an all
encompassing Federal Gun Owner Database will be used to the destruction
of liberty and privacy for all Americans. Integration of contrived medical
disqualifiers will be abused (like treatment for depression after the loss of a
family member a decade ago!), extra fees and taxes will be assessed,
dissemination of gun owner data in public forums could occur (leading to
theft and murders), integration of national ID systems and political classifications could be integrated…just to name a few. The government
has no business tracking this information and it’s a clear violation of the
2nd Amendment..

True assistance to gun violence can be accomplished in two simple ways 1) Strengthen American value
systems instead of tearing them down. Support families and their instruction of their children. Not by liberal
government educational systems but by families. This WILL reduce gun crime. Good children, taught be
loving guardians, grow up to be good people, protecting life not destroying it. 2) Eliminate gun free zones
with national legislation. Civilian gun ownership has to be allowed in all reasonable venues to eliminate
these mass shootings: schools, shopping areas, churches, stadiums, etc. Immediate armed response by both
LE and armed civilians stops these shootings, proven in recent history.

UBC will prove to be catastrophic for America. I truly appreciate your support in defending the Second
Amendment and will continually reward you with my support and that of my audience in social media.
Likewise if I find it lacking I will strive to make sure you are not re-elected and your political career is ruined.





Thank you for your consideration,

Great arguments, but I can't read in the vertical. I keep loosing my place.

 

[matodd]

Sent it

 

[JTScribe]

Mine:

Senator, it is with great concern that I read that you are considering supporting expanded background checks for firearms purchases. I would like to strongly urge you not to support them, for the following reasons:

a) The 'gun show' loophole as it is referred to is really talking about private sales between individuals. As this most often does not involve inter-state commerce, but is rather intra-state commerce conducted at a local level, I feel it is beyond Federal Constitutional purview. Expanded background checks would also place limits on familial transfers via gifting or inheritance, as well as the gifting of firearms for family members.

b) Criminals don't buy their firearms using any legal process. They steal them or they buy them from other criminals. These laws would be ineffectual to those who are already breaking multiple laws and create an unnecessarily hindrance on law-abiding citizens.

c) Finally, any sort of widespread background check system will be registration if not in fact than in practice. Given the difficulties your fellow Republican Senator from Kentucky, Mr. Paul, faced in gaining assurance from this administration that it did not possess the right to use military drones against domestic civilian targets, I do not feel we can grant them the benefit of the doubt that records will not be retained in some form or fashion. Registration historically has always resulted in confiscation - most recently in California - with the requisite chilling of other civil rights such as free speech.

Senator, the 2nd Amendment protects every other Amendment. It must be protected. The People of Indiana are depending on you.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter,
{jtscribe}

 

[bds792]

Sent mine!

 

[Car Ramrod]

Done. I included your questions, Kirk.

 

[cobber]

Done.

 

[lonehoosier]

Email sent. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[DRob]

C,mon

I contacted the IN GOP when the announcement was made that they were backing Dan Coats for the US Senate, despite the variety of new blood vying for the job. "WHY support a has-been, career politician over someone without a track record in Washington?" I asked them. I received no reply..........................

Ya' gotta' play the game a little bit. Writing rude and insulting letters to politicians and political organizations will guarantee you exactly what you got. No response! All you will get is the chance to say "I asked them a question and they didn't answer". Nice going! You made the point that some gun owners really are the rubes the anti-gun crowd thinks we all are!

 

[2A_Tom]

Friends,
It is soo good to see so many of us who keep up the pressure on our representatives.

One note. An old addage states "An armed society is a polite society." Another states "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."

My e-mailed,both senators

Seator,
Thank you for voting with the people, the Constitution, and your oath to defend both against all enemies foreign and domestic in voting for Senator Inhofe's ammendment against the UN ATT. I do not believe that the US should be pouring billions into the UN an organization as anti-American as one can be.

Please vote against banning standard capacity magazines and UBC wihch will deminish my ability to defend my family amd will do absolutly nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Your Obed. Svt.
bluefalcon

Sandwich psycology. Say something positive, request/negative, end on positive note. Mary Poppins's spoon ful of sugar.

Be polite positive and firm.

 

[dantrom]

Done!

Sent him and Donnelly another message regarding DHS building an arsenal, asking that they demand answers for the reason of such a large purchase.

 

[Notavictim646]

Just sent both Senators ANOTHER note. Keep them coming. In the dark of the night they will only understand an unrelenting response from a group that will NOT forget.

 

[IndyDave1776]

By the sound of the staff member I spoke with, particularly backing away from the business about hearing the details before making a decision, I would say that Coats is at least somewhat concerned about the possibility of joining Lugar. Now, we just have to make sure it stays that way.

 

[billybob44]

Message sent. And Called...Bill.

 

[Gunpowder]

Hear this morning of the flipping trend. I just emailed both. I should have mentioned Luger but I doubt Coats cares. I did say I would vote both out.

 

[cobber]

Just called, they obviously had my name in the system.

Expressed my complete opposition to current gun legislation, and hopes that the Senator would continue to support law-abiding Hoosiers.

 

[Kmcinnes]

Here is the letter my son sent a couple of days ago to both Senator's Donnelly and Coats.



Dear Senator Donnelly,

I am 10 years old and a fourth grader at XXXXXXXX Elementery School in XXXXXX, Indiana. My dad and I spend a lot of time target shooting, he has taught me about gun safety. He taught me that I should always handle a gun as if it is loaded, never point a gun at anything or person unless I am willing to pull the trigger and always keep my finger off of the trigger until I am ready to fire the gun. My dad has also taught me that if I find a gun laying around not to touch it and to get an adult. I also like to go camping and fishing and I am a boy scout.

I went to a Second Amendment Rally with my dad in January at our statehouse in Indianapolis. He wanted me to see how we use of the first Amendment to support and protect the second amendment. At the rally I got a little book of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I sat down and read the second amendment over and over again and memorized it. I told it to my dad and he smiled, I was proud of myself and he was proud of me to. My dad asked me what it meant and I didn't know so he told me to find out. This is what I learned.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”.


"A well regulated Militia"
mi·li·tia - noun

1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies.

2. a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.

3. all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service.

4. a body of citizens organized in a paramilitary group and typically regarding themselves as defenders of individual rights against the presumed interference of the federal government.

Note that in all the definitions it specifically refers to Citizens, civilians, and NOT professional military or soldiers. This means every person of adult age is a a “citizen solder” and has the duty to defend our country.

"...being necessary to the security of a free State..."

Being required in order to maintain freedom for the all citizens of a State or defined land area and to insure freedom in their person, place, and things from any and all that would attempt to take that freedom.

"...the right of the people..."

That says the RIGHT of the people. The citizens of that State (which includes the individual sovereignties known as the United States). It does NOT say the "privilege" or "permission", or "allowance or needs of someone thinks they should allow it", but the RIGHT.

"...to keep..."

keep - verb
1. to hold or retain in one's possession.
2. to hold or have the use of for a period of time.

"...and bear..."

There are some 30 definitions, so dad made me limit it to those appropriate to the 2nd Amendment.

7. to hold or carry (oneself, one's body, one's head, etc.).
12. to carry; bring.

By either definition (or any other), to 'bear' means to possess and carry. Meaning to take it along and carry it as one moves from place to place.

"...Arms..."

arm - noun
1. Usually, arms. weapons, especially firearms.

"...shall not be infringed..."

infringe - verb (used with object)
1. to commit a breach or infraction of, violate or transgress.
verb (used without object)
2. to encroach or trespass (usually followed by on or upon).

BOTH of those definitions are relevant.








By definition the second amendment reads:

All able-bodied people considered by law eligible for military service, being required in order to maintain freedom for all citizens of a State or defined land area and to insure freedom in their person, place, and things from any and all that would attempt to take that freedom, the right of the people to hold and retain in one's possession of weapons shall not be encroached or trespassed upon.

People say that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with the guns we have today because Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson and all the rest of the signers only knew about muskets and cannons, but they also did not know anything about computers or the internet. So does that apply to the First Amendment to? I am 10 years old and I have been learning about the Constitution. My dad has helped me understand the meaning of the Second Amendment. I don’t understand why Congress or the President does not understand it because a lot of people have died defending it.


Sincerely,