SBR's and Machine Guns not protected by 2A.

[DadSmith]

 

[2tonic]

Ummm........okay?


Seems like he was saying no worries, trial court, not a Federal court.

The twisted logic used by some of these courts requires a Boy Scout Handbook to untie.

 

[Mgderf]

"...shall not be infringed."

 

[KellyinAvon]

This **** never ends.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

With the left and with gun grabbers specifically, we're always fighting an asymmetric war. They always use corrupt logic and extra-constitutional arguments to enact bad legislation or get bad court decisions. Then, our side always plays the game of trying to legislatively overturning all this stuff. In the mean time how many millions of man-years of lost liberty is endured?

 

[daddyusmaximus]

My SBR isn't particularly unusual, and as long as nobody tries to take it from me...
it won't be dangerous either.

 

[DadSmith]

Obama-Appointed Judge: Short-Barreled Rifles and Machine Guns Not Protected by Second Amendment - Firearms News

Obama-Appointed Judge: Short-Barreled Rifles and Machine Guns Not Protected by Second Amendment

www.firearmsnews.com

 

[drillsgt]

'machine guns are highly ‘dangerous and unusual weapons’ that are not ‘typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes’

Despite what the movies would have you believe most 'machine guns' in the US are almost entirely owned by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, they might not be 'typically possessed' in great numbers but nonetheless are owned by law-abiding citizens

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Of course I can’t refind it now but I saw one of those never forget what they took from you posts where it showed an ad from years ago selling old WW2 machine guns. You see to be able to buy machine guns with no tax stamp, no background checks, just cash.

 

[edwea]

Despite what the movies would have you believe most 'machine guns' in the US are almost entirely owned by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, they might not be 'typically possessed' in great numbers but nonetheless are owned by law-abiding citizens

About 5 years ago I would have agreed with this, but every thug that gets arrested these days seems to have a Glock switch.

 

[joe138]

I can't remember where I read this, but it said that "no registered and legally owned machine gun had ever been used in a crime".
Thugs are gonna thug.

 

[JAL]

Ummm........okay?


Seems like he was saying no worries, trial court, not a Federal court.

The twisted logic used by some of these courts requires a Boy Scout Handbook to untie.

It's the Federal District Court of Hawaii, not a state court. Next stop after the Hawaiian Federal District Court -- 9th Circus Court of Appeals. Grieve is correct that it can't be cited as a precedent, but rest assured it will be cited by BATFE nevertheless as a case every other court they're dealing with should take note of.

 

[JAL]

Yet another problematic criminal case in a Federal District Court. The perp in this one is a Bad Dude. Saw the video a few days ago. The important part of it is Grieve's remarks about citation of Blackstone in the SCOTUS 2008 Heller Decision plus the Caetano Decision.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

No

'machine guns are highly ‘dangerous and unusual weapons’ that are not ‘typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes’

Despite what the movies would have you believe most 'machine guns' in the US are almost entirely owned by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, they might not be 'typically possessed' in great numbers but nonetheless are owned by law-abiding citizens

Not typically possessed because the government makes it nearly impossible to do so. I’m sure 80% of the people here wouldn’t mind owning a mp5 or m4 full auto if we could go to our LGS and pick one up for 1k or less

 

[eric001]

No

Not typically possessed because the government makes it nearly impossible to do so. I’m sure 80% of the people here wouldn’t mind owning a mp5 or m4 full auto if we could go to our LGS and pick one up for 1k or less

Beat me to it. How convenient for the lefty gungrabbers to claim they aren't "in common use" or "typically possessed" when it was a previous generation of lefty gungrabbers that MADE full auto nearly impossible for the common person to actually own.

And, yes, if I COULD own full auto AR or even AK platforms without paying ridiculous prices and doing ridiculous paperwork, you'd better believe I absolutely would. Hell, I'm even interested in full auto pistols, SMG's, whatevers--I just am not wealthy enough to even consider it. Would I run 'em in full auto? Maybe every once in a great while just for fun...would I like to be able to have that option whenever I felt like it? Oh hell yes.

Huh. Guess I'm an example of what those gungrabby leftist ****ers wanted to accomplish.

 

[Creedmoor]

Beat me to it. How convenient for the lefty gungrabbers to claim they aren't "in common use" or "typically possessed" when it was a previous generation of lefty gungrabbers that MADE full auto nearly impossible for the common person to actually own.

And, yes, if I COULD own full auto AR or even AK platforms without paying ridiculous prices and doing ridiculous paperwork, you'd better believe I absolutely would. Hell, I'm even interested in full auto pistols, SMG's, whatevers--I just am not wealthy enough to even consider it. Would I run 'em in full auto? Maybe every once in a great while just for fun...would I like to be able to have that option whenever I felt like it? Oh hell yes.

Huh. Guess I'm an example of what those gungrabby leftist ****ers wanted to accomplish.

Leftys took machine guns away??... It was Ronald Reagan

 

[eric001]

Leftys took machine guns away??... It was Ronald Reagan

Who, in spite of his public image of the time, allowed it to happen... so yes, my statement stands.

But I was actually thinking of the 1934 NFA travesty that pretty much obliterated the idea of "shall not be infringed" from then onward...
Sorry for the edit, it was a kneejerk response to Reagan--other than loving his much publicized rhetoric about defeating the Soviet Union, not really fond of him.

 

[Creedmoor]

I can't remember where I read this, but it said that "no registered and legally owned machine gun had ever been used in a crime".
Thugs are gonna thug.

Decades ago I believe it was an Ohio police officer killed his wife with a registered Ingram Mac 10.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Beat me to it. How convenient for the lefty gungrabbers to claim they aren't "in common use" or "typically possessed" when it was a previous generation of lefty gungrabbers that MADE full auto nearly impossible for the common person to actually own.

And, yes, if I COULD own full auto AR or even AK platforms without paying ridiculous prices and doing ridiculous paperwork, you'd better believe I absolutely would. Hell, I'm even interested in full auto pistols, SMG's, whatevers--I just am not wealthy enough to even consider it. Would I run 'em in full auto? Maybe every once in a great while just for fun...would I like to be able to have that option whenever I felt like it? Oh hell yes.

Huh. Guess I'm an example of what those gungrabby leftist ****ers wanted to accomplish.

Absolutely

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Leftys took machine guns away??... It was Ronald Reagan

You know I didn’t believe that when I first read it but you are right. I never knew.
But I did love me some Ronald Regan.
Could you imagine if he were here now and saw what happened to his beloved USA