Saint John Indiana, NOT gun friendly

[Bill B]

u don't have a life-time one???

No, funding was an issue at the time.

 

[Beau]

Bill I wish you the best. This waiting for the decision would drive me crazy.

I still can't believe they did this to you. Good luck sir!

 

[darkkevin]

glad to hear it went well, damn tho, more waiting??? can't imagine how much this sucks for you. keep your chin up!!

 

[Beau]

glad to hear it went well, damn tho, more waiting??? can't imagine how much this sucks for you. keep your chin up!!

Chin up, Chin up! Everybody loves a happy face...

Now I have this song from Charlottes Web stuck in my head. Kids have watched it 4 times in the last week.

 

[LegatoRedrivers]

I'm fairly new here, so this is the first I've been seeing the thread. I took the time to read through all 33 pages of posts, and I've gotta say that while I've been a fan of the horror genre for years, no movie I've seen or story I've read has ever made my blood run colder than what I've read here.

Best of luck, let us know if when you get a response from the state.

 

[mainjet]

It's my belief that you will have your license restored in short order. It seems very open and shut to me from everything that you told us about the case including how the hearing went. I see no grounds to deny your right to have the license.

It sounds like the lady at the house ended up being a pretty good witness for your side.

I give it a max of three weeks before you have your license again. I wouldn't be surprised to hear you have received a letter by the end of next week.

Good Luck.

 

[finity]

It sounds like the lady at the house ended up being a pretty good witness for your side.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm surprised that they tried to make a vcase with that kind of very one-sided (YOUR-sided) testimony.

Did they ever say what exactly the police chief sent them as evidence that you weren't a proper person? From the testimony of the state's witness it sounds pretty much like it was his own personal opinion. If that's the case then that could happen to anyone at any time.

 

[Bill B]

The only thing that was used as evidence that I wasn't a proper person was the police report and the fact that charges were filed. At the hearing my attorney objected to the report as hearsay, but the rules allow the hearsay evidence as long as it isn't the only thing they use to make a decision.

 

[mainjet]

bill, this should give you some reason to have confidence that you will see your license again very soon.

IC 35-47-2-5
Suspension or revocation of license; failure to return license; rules concerning procedure for suspending or revoking license
Sec. 5. (a) The superintendent may suspend or revoke any license issued under this chapter if he has reasonable grounds to believe that the person's license should be suspended or revoked.
(b) Documented evidence that a person is not a "proper person" to be licensed as defined by IC 35-47-1-7, or is prohibited under section 3(g)(5) of this chapter from being issued a license, shall be grounds for immediate suspension or revocation of a license previously issued under this chapter. However, if a license is suspended or revoked based solely on an arrest under section 3(g)(5) of this chapter, the license shall be reinstated upon the acquittal of the defendant in that case or upon the dismissal of the charges for the specific offense.

 

[jedi]

bill, this should give you some reason to have confidence that you will see your license again very soon.

IC 35-47-2-5
Suspension or revocation of license; failure to return license; rules concerning procedure for suspending or revoking license
Sec. 5. (a) The superintendent may suspend or revoke any license issued under this chapter if he has reasonable grounds to believe that the person's license should be suspended or revoked.
(b) Documented evidence that a person is not a "proper person" to be licensed as defined by IC 35-47-1-7, or is prohibited under section 3(g)(5) of this chapter from being issued a license, shall be grounds for immediate suspension or revocation of a license previously issued under this chapter. However, if a license is suspended or revoked based solely on an arrest under section 3(g)(5) of this chapter, the license shall be reinstated upon the acquittal of the defendant in that case or upon the dismissal of the charges for the specific offense.

Yes and if that (IC above) is the case then why did Bill B have to drive all the way to Indy and hire an ATTY at that!

 

[bigus_D]

Yes and if that (IC above) is the case then why did Bill B have to drive all the way to Indy and hire an ATTY at that!

I assume the revocation was accompanied by anecdotal evidence (i.e. 'that girl was scared by golly!').

Hopefully the permit will be returned. According to the facts as presented here, it is more than obvious that it should be.

Can't wait to hear the good news!

 

[tim46311]

First time reading this... Hope all turns out good for you Bill, as i live in the area and feel scared that the LEO in the area act like this.

 

[hoosierdaddy1976]

read all 34 pages in one stretch. WOW! feel bad for you bill, glad that everything has turned out so far, but jeez that's a bunch of bs to go through. i work in hammond and drive through st. john every morning. i knew they could be tough with the radar and watching the roads after the bars close, but had no idea they would put up such a hassle.

hope you get a final resolution soon in your favor.

 

[Mog]

I, too, am checking in late-- just read through the thread. What a PITA! I'm glad things seem to have worked out well so far. But just to recap-- The initial situation was resolved, the complaint letter (very well written, IMHO) sent-- and AFTER the complaint was received, THEN charges were filed and you were arrested??? That sequence sounds more than a little suspect. Just sayin'. Or did I miss something?

read all 34 pages in one stretch. WOW! feel bad for you bill, glad that everything has turned out so far, but jeez that's a bunch of bs to go through. i work in hammond and drive through st. john every morning. i knew they could be tough with the radar and watching the roads after the bars close, but had no idea they would put up such a hassle.

hope you get a final resolution soon in your favor.

 

[BlueEagle]

Sad state of affairs when the law-abiding citizens who are helping reduce crime by being a responsible firearm carrier have good reason to avoid the police. I hope that your permit is re-instated, a full written apology is issued, and the officer in question is severely reprimanded.

 

[bigworm]

man just read this whole thing sounds kinda like what happened to me after the charges were dropped got the same letter went to indy and told them my story to then they revoked me

 

[jedi]

man just read this whole thing sounds kinda like what happened to me after the charges were dropped got the same letter went to indy and told them my story to then they revoked me

So you don't have an LTCH anymore? Or they reinstated your LTCH?

 

[bigworm]

no i have one now i applied and they gave it to me

 

[jedi]

So any updates Bill B?

 

[Bill B]

So any updates Bill B?

Not yet, I figure at least another week.