Thanks to all who have responded. As one who researches ad naseum, this just might have put to rest any remaining doubt I may have had on the M&P9. Now the only question is if in addition to the full size for myself, should I get my Lady a full size or a compact. I had read that for new shooters, a compact's true accuracy is seldom realized due to the smaller grip. I would also think that the compact would have a bit more muzzle flip with the defensive rounds. A con on the full size is that if it is "too" big, she will not carry it nor throw it in a purse... I will probably get mine first to let her evaluate.