Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[DadSmith]

Ukraine says it repulses major attack on Kyiv base, downs 2 Russian transport planes

Heavy fighting reported in capital's Shuliavka neighborhood, hours after Zelensky warns Russians planning to storm city overnight; Russians not releasing casualty figures

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[gregr]

Well, they`re right about this much, from the piece:

"In sarcastic comments posted on a Russian social platform, Medvedev dismissed the sanctions as a show of Western “political impotence” that will only consolidate the Russian leadership and foment anti-Western feelings.'

Anti-war sentiment grows in Russia despite govt crackdown

As Russian troops were closing in on the Ukrainian capital, more and more Russians spoke out Saturday against the invasion, even as the government's official rhetoric grew increasingly harsher. According to OVD-Info, rights group that tracks political arrests, at least 460 people in 34 cities...

www.yahoo.com

 

[smokingman]

Is there a point here?

Sure the point is to make you think about the why. Instead of swallowing the ******** being shoveled by our media both the left and right.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Not up on modern guns, what are those?

Looks like a pile of ADS which Russian Spetsnaz uses.

ADS Assault Rifle: An Underwater Assault Rifle That Isn't Science Fiction

Water won't save you from this Russian weapon.

nationalinterest.org

Looks like the Ukrainian Malyuk Rifle to me, definitely doesn't look like an ADS.

 

[DadSmith]

Looks like the Ukrainian Malyuk Rifle to me, definitely doesn't look like an ADS.

After looking at the two it definitely isn't ADS. At first glance it's what I thought it was. Had to zoom the picture in to see the differences. If I was Ukraine I'd get all the information they can then shoot them as spies.

 

[Jaybird1980]

After looking at the two it definitely isn't ADS. At first glance it's what I thought it was. Had to zoom the picture in to see the differences. If I was Ukraine I'd get all the information they can then shoot them as spies.

I'm pretty sure the average Ukrainian soldier is not going to interrogate prisoners, collect information and execute.

I've never been a Ukrainian Soldier so I guess I could be wrong.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Glad to see that SOMEONE will do the right thing...

NATO Green Lights Historic Deployment of Troops to ‘Deter’ Putin

GINTS IVUSKANS/AFP via Getty ImagesThe North Atlantic Treaty Organization has decided to deploy elements of the NATO Response Force in an effort to thwart Russia’s onslaught in Ukraine."What we see now is a full fledged invasion of Ukraine," NATO Secretary General Jens Soltenberg said in a press...

www.yahoo.com

Have you bought your plane ticket yet?

 

[DadSmith]

I'm pretty sure the average Ukrainian soldier is not going to interrogate prisoners, collect information and execute.

I've never been a Ukrainian Soldier so I guess I could be wrong.

Why not? Foreign invader dressed like a friendly. That is automatically death penalty.
Unless you do it to the United States then we bring you here and put you up in a nice apartment with food stamps.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Why not? Foreign invader dressed like a friendly. That is automatically death penalty.

Because they're not trained in collecting intelligence and doing interrogation.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Civilians are considered “unlawful“ combatants and are not granted protection under the law of land warfare.

Before you guy’s get your Pa*#&$ in a wad all it takes is a Commissioned Officer give you the oath and throw a uniform on ya!

I personally know 50+ Patriots here on INGO that are better trained and equipped than just about any Army in the world.

This also means if you have a 2 minute “tribunal“ you than can execute them.

1. Uniform
2. ID card/ID tags
This means your legit

Also 72 hours in Russians are at the gate don’t believe all crap going around. The Russians bypass stiff resistance and encircle Objectives.

This is like a WWII fight the Poles fought hard but didn’t last long. Way too much crap on the interwebs. Fox news sounds like a Ukrainian propaganda channel.

Thanks for the clarification on the LOAC Brad. I've been Blue-ID Mafia almost 15 years but the big picture stuff (uniform/distinctive insignia, a commanding officer) stayed with me. I saw a lot of what looks like ACUs with yellow armbands. If it checks the LOAC box, it checks the LOAC box.

I don't know how deguello translates into Ukrainian, but I have the feeling it does.

 

[Brad69]

They are not Russian SF equipment is all wrong. Lots of BS coming out of the Ukrainian side. Don’t believe hype the Ukrainians are staging stuff in a attempt at wining the info war.

1. About 50,000 Russians are in Ukraine so that leaves more 100,000 in reserve.

2. The Russians are NOT targeting power plants nor have they shutdown the power grid.

3. If you capture a sabotage dude wearing your uniform. It’s bad during the battle of the bulge the US captured many Germans in US uniforms.

A little WW2 info to see how we do the thing.

 

[BigRed]

Had to stop by a local bank branch today to drop off a deposit.

Line was long and teller said they were out of large bills.

Gee... that's strange.

 

[DadSmith]

Because they're not trained in collecting intelligence and doing interrogation.

I see what you did. I said Ukraine you added soldier to it. No it doesn't work that way. They get taken to interrogators and when done they should be shot. I figure that's common knowledge. I never put soldiers down you did.

 

[DadSmith]

They are not Russian SF equipment is all wrong. Lots of BS coming out of the Ukrainian side. Don’t believe hype the Ukrainians are staging stuff in a attempt at wining the info war.

1. About 50,000 Russians are in Ukraine so that leaves more 100,000 in reserve.

2. The Russians are NOT targeting power plants nor have they shutdown the power grid.

3. If you capture a sabotage dude wearing your uniform. It’s bad during the battle of the bulge the US captured many Germans in US uniforms.

A little WW2 info to see how we do the thing.

Good on Ukraine to win the propaganda war.
Ukraine isn't the United States. I doubt they will bring them in and put them in nice apartments and feed them.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I see what you did. I said Ukraine you added soldier to it. No it doesn't work that way. They get taken to interrogators and when done they should be shot. I figure that's common knowledge. I never put soldiers down you did.

My mistake I thought you were part of the kill them on site and dump them in the water.

 

[Jaybird1980]

No, they are Tavors. It wouldn't make any sense for spies masquerading as Ukranian troops to be carrying Russian issued weapons.

Ukraine Manufacturing Tavor in 5.45x39mm -

Ukrainian state-owned firm RPC Fort (Research and Production Company Fort of the Ministry of Interior of Ukraine) is manufacturing under license a variant of the IWI Tavor chambered in 5.45x39mm Russian. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are still primarily armed with 5.45x39mm chambered firearms...

www.thefirearmblog.com

I don't believe they are Tavors look at the angle of the mag. I think they are Ukrainian Malyuk.

Ukraine adopts "Malyuk" bullpup rifle ? -

Ukroboronprom (Ukrainian defense industry organization) made an announcement about Malyuk bullpup rifle successfully passing government tests. They’ve already started manufacturing it. It is a bit confusing because they don’t literally state that the gun is adopted. However, passing all...

www.thefirearmblog.com

 

[nra4ever]

Zelensky has cut and run. Will continue the fight on twitter

Zelensky Has Fled Kiev for Lvov, Russian State Duma Speaker Says

On 24 February, Russia launched a military operation in Ukraine after the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk requested assistance to defend themselves from attacks by Ukrainian forces.

sputniknews.com

 

[Route 45]

I don't believe they are Tavors look at the angle of the mag. I think they are Ukrainian Malyuk.

Ukraine adopts "Malyuk" bullpup rifle ? -

Ukroboronprom (Ukrainian defense industry organization) made an announcement about Malyuk bullpup rifle successfully passing government tests. They’ve already started manufacturing it. It is a bit confusing because they don’t literally state that the gun is adopted. However, passing all...

www.thefirearmblog.com

Looking again, I think you might be right.

 

[Route 45]

Little bit of humor.

 

[Shadow01]

Any Russian soldiers captured should be handed over to armed citizens after they have been interrogated to be disposed of without record. Keeps the uniformed military clean.