Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

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    DadSmith

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    I would love to have my own BTR-80.

    I've seen a few videos showing farmers towing tanks, and various APCs ... but where are the Russian crews?

    They just left on foot and left farmers take their vehicles worth millions without fighting?


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    Russia doesn't use them antiques do they? (Mig 21)?
    I question this as propaganda.
     

    actaeon277

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    LMAO!! Comedian Lewis Black talked about trusting our government. They use to teach us children to duck under our desks in a nuclear attack. Our government told children that in case of a thermal nuclear war, a WOODEN desk would save us.....lmao.

    The desk won't save you from the nuke.
    But if the nuke hits else ware, it might be a good idea in case something comes down from the ceiling, such as a vent cover, light assembly, etc
    Same for a tornado.
     

    cobber

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    I think the gist is, they run out of gas. And the bored hungry Russians inside abandon them
    If they're anything like the old timey Soviet soldiers, they're draining out anything remotely intoxicating and drinking it. Once this is all over the missing soldiers may show up, terminally inebriated, in ditches and barns throughout Ukraine.
     

    gregr

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    I think this is a good explanation for why someone has to do something about Putin and this naked Russian aggression. The same thing has been said over the years about Hitler; that had it been dealt with earlier, that it may not have erupted into a world war. Pacifists and isolationists will poo-poo this, but it has merit.

     

    Tombs

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    I think this is a good explanation for why someone has to do something

    This is the kind of rationale that leads us into gun bans, unjust wars, and economic catastrophe. Nothing good is ever accomplished in the name of "doing something."

    Either you have very easily defined goals, in which you take actions in pursuit of those goals, or you end up doing dumb ****.

    We have easily defined goals, the defense of NATO partners. Russia has not hit NATO partners yet. Therefor no action is necessary. When or if they do, then taking corrective actions makes all the sense in the world. Until that point, you are watching Russia deplete their military assets and weaken themselves further and further. It would be stupid to get involved when they're still willingly flushing their military assets down the toilet without us having to expend any lives.
     

    BigRed

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    This is the kind of rationale that leads us into gun bans, unjust wars, and economic catastrophe. Nothing good is ever accomplished in the name of "doing something."

    Either you have very easily defined goals, in which you take actions in pursuit of those goals, or you end up doing dumb ****.

    We have easily defined goals, the defense of NATO partners. Russia has not hit NATO partners yet. Therefor no action is necessary. When or if they do, then taking corrective actions makes all the sense in the world. Until that point, you are watching Russia deplete their military assets and weaken themselves further and further. It would be stupid to get involved when they're still willingly flushing their military assets down the toilet without us having to expend any lives.

    Dissolve NATO.
     

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