OH - on the driver's license - they have to be over 18. An 18 year old in Indiana can have a permit to carry but still may not purchase a hand gun.
OH - on the driver's license - they have to be over 18. An 18 year old in Indiana can have a permit to carry but still may not purchase a hand gun.
I just listed my glock 17 on armslist. Since I haven't done this before I was wondering what the rules are for a private sale and what are my responsibilities as the seller. I just don't want to sell a weapon to someone who is not allowed to have one.
You can't ship except FFL to FFL, so unless someone local purchases it you must go through FFL. If you're concerned you can always meet at a local gun shop (local purchase) and let them pay for a background check before you do the transaction. Lot of guys on here just ask for a driver's license and carry permit - driver's license proves who they are and carry permit says that person had a background check.
You don't have to ship from an FFL. Just depends what state it's going to and what the local FFL's policy is. Some shops won't receive a firearm unless shipped from an FFL
And a person in Indiana can be 18 and purchase a handgun, as long as it's from an individual and not a FFL.
As for the carry license, it really doesn't matter. The state can issue a carry license, but the background check is ran through the FBI or a contractor, which would be federal. You can actually have a carry license and get denied or delayed on a 4473
If you sell to someone local, just to be safe, cover yourself by copying down their personal information or at least DLN on a bill of sales form. If they have a carry license I'd make a note of it but it's not a requirement but seeing that little pink piece of paper does make some people feel safer selling a handgun
This is INCORRECT: You are correct if your purchasing from a LICENSED DEALER as they are bound by Federal regulations, however a PRIVATE Citizen (not a licensed dealer) may sell a handgun to any INDIANA RESIDENT 18 years of age or older.
The federal law states you can sell to any RESIDENT of the same state as you reside as long as you do not "KNOW OR HAVE REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE" that the person is not legally allowed to possess a firearm. Therefore if you view a valid INDIANA drivers license showing the person to be 18, and don't know or have a reasonable cause to believe that the person is not illegal to possess a gun, you have no liability to be concerned about. You are not required or asked to do any research on a persons background, in fact there is no way an individual can acquire the information from the NICS check.
I know of many people that purchase and possess firearm that do not have a LTCH, these include my own elder sisters and BIL and good friends that are exemplary persons. They possess firearms for hunting, targeting, home protection, etc. but do not carry for personal protection.
If I wanted to sell any of my collection, I personally would not require any more information than that required by law. It is everyone's option, however although I have my lifetime LTCH and also a FFL-03 (collector of Curio and Relics), I probably would not purchase a firearm from anyone that requires more information than the law requires. I really think we have far more "laws" and rules than necessary, in the recent tragedies it has been proven that none help prevent crime. In my opinion these rules and laws only hinder honest citizens from possess the right to protect themselves and raise the cost of firearm ownership. As a true supporter of the 2nd Amendment RIGHT, do not believe I or anyone else should add more!
A criminal or person not legal to possess a firearm certainly can obtain one through many channels, Theft, purchasing from other criminals, trading for drugs etc. so I don't believe concerns that require lawful citizens to "prove themselves" have any effect on criminal gun use.
I asked an ATFE agent in Indianapolis about a collector selling a modern gun to an individual. His response was: The seller is responsible to make sure the buyer is from Indiana (check drivers license) and be 21 or over. He did not differentiate between handgun or rifle. I asked if I could sell directly to an individual in another state. His response was NO. I then thought I would get cagey and asked how many guns must a collector sell to be defined as a dealer with the ATFE. He smiled and walked off. Moral of the story, by not defining a set number of sales, the ATFE leaves themselves a lot of wiggle room. I don't want to start arguments, this is what I was told.
It amazes me how much incorrect info continues to be put out there. Esp the 18yo rule. And then when the rule is explained, a lot of guys still wont sell to a 18yo ftf. Just want to be sure they say. Then you have the crowd that wants to see a LTCH to purchase a LONG gun.