Rule Number One: All Guns are always loaded

[308jake]

I had to take a week off so the pent up tension needed to be released.

I'll pistol whip you into a coma next time we get together if you think it will help ...with an inert training pistol, of course.

Thank you sir may I have another.

 

[bwframe]

...attempting to develop an oversimplified metaphorical "big boy rule" favored by many heroes and professionals, they can instruct in specifics which require very little explanation and afford no excuses for violation.

There we go, the big boy rules. An excuse to point guns at ourselves and others.

 

[MohawkSlim]

There we go, the big boy rules. An excuse to point guns at ourselves and others.

Works for me.

 

[308jake]

If you always point a gun in a safe direction, always keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot, and always keep your gun unloaded till ready to use, then you won't hurt yourself or others accidentally. It's not ****ing rocket science, but then again, people are dumb ****s and love to break RULES.

 

[ATM]

There we go, the big boy rules. An excuse to point guns at ourselves and others.

Don't pluralize it - the reference was to Cooper's #1 only - it's the one you fancy yourself defending.

 

[bwframe]

...the reference was to Cooper's #1 only - it's the one you fancy yourself defending.

I'm not defending anything. I follow the Four Rules of Firearms Safety.

Apparently it's you defending your failure to follow these established rules.

 

[MohawkSlim]

I can't wait till 10 years from now when you guys are on here defending a completely different set of rules. "But, muh rules!"

 

[crispy]

I can't wait till 10 years from now when you guys are on here defending a completely different set of rules. "But, muh rules!"

You don't have to. Everyone has already changed the four rules INCLUDING the people that still attribute the rules to Jeff Cooper. That right there says all you need to know.

 

[308jake]

I'm not defending anything. I follow the Four Rules of Firearms Safety.

Apparently it's you defending your failure to follow these established rules.

You pick up your gun, drop the mag, cycle the slide, lock the slide back, and double check to make sure the gun is clear. You then proceed to clean the gun. Do you ever look down the barrel to see if you have cleaned everything properly? Or do you ever place your hand or part of a finger over the muzzle for any reason?

 

[SubicWarrior1988]

National association of Gun RIghts. Yup, 4 rules.

[video=youtube;PrKlf046M2Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrKlf046M2Q[/video]

 

[bwframe]

You pick up your gun, drop the mag, cycle the slide, lock the slide back, and double check to make sure the gun is clear. You then proceed to clean the gun. Do you ever look down the barrel to see if you have cleaned everything properly? Or do you ever place your hand or part of a finger over the muzzle for any reason?

A disassembled gun is safe to inspect from any angle. It's just metal parts, it becomes a gun when assembled.

Of course you don't put your hand in front of the muzzle, that's just foolish. That's Rule #2 though...

 

[308jake]

A disassembled gun is safe to inspect from any angle. It's just metal parts, it becomes a gun when assembled.

Of course you don't put your hand in front of the muzzle, that's just foolish. That's Rule #2 though...

Or one could say it's the real number 1.

 

[ATM]

I'm not defending anything. I follow the Four Rules of Firearms Safety.

Apparently it's you defending your failure to follow these established rules.

I follow the only 3 of those 4 which can be followed, the ones which are actually safe gun handling rules.

I won't adopt or teach that first thing Cooper came up with as everyone knows it's absurd. Even those who claim to have adopted it tend to change it arbitrarily to suit their own cognitive reality and frequently dismiss the other 3 when they can't.

Here's a stumper for ya: If I am violating your #1 but practicing the other 3, how could you tell? Would My failure to believe a gun loaded really be a failure if I keep guns pointed in a safe direction and keep my finger off the trigger until ready to shoot?

Doesn't sound like a needed or even a sensible rule to me if you can't identify or offer correction for what I'm doing wrong when I break it.

Get back to me if you come up with anything on that.

 

[JettaKnight]

National association of Gun RIghts. Yup, 4 rules.

 

[ATM]

National association of Gun RIghts. Yup, 4 rules.

We have become a nation of adopters rather than critical thinkers.

Again, lots of doctors promoted Camels back in the day.

 

[SubicWarrior1988]

This guy gets it, he's an NRA instructor as well, and yes, a 4 rules advocate.

[video=youtube;_p8UzPah4PA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p8UzPah4PA[/video]

 

[bwframe]

I know, I know, every excuse to not follow the established rules. Break it down, tear it up with silly semantics, whine about it all.

No way some old guy who was responsible for pretty much all modern day firearms instruction practices could still be right in a sea of geniuses like us.

Question safety, it's "big boy rules."

 

[SteveM4A1]

So, just so we are clear. Logic and reason are out and we now appeal to expert opinion? Gotcha.

 

[JettaKnight]

This guy gets it, he's an NRA instructor as well, and yes, a 4 rules advocate.

Kudos on this this guy for not changing from the original.


Probably also eschews extra crispy at KFC.

 

[ATM]

This guy gets it, he's an NRA instructor as well, and yes, a 4 rules advocate.

Quite enough regurgitation out there - we get it and never questioned its popularity - but, have you found anyone able to actually defend the bit about all guns are always loaded?