Rob Pincus (ICE) and James Yeager (Tactical Response) on Open Carry

[paddling_man]

Carry openly and concealed. At the same time.

Thread killer.

 

[rhino]

Thread killer.

Someone had to do it.

I had the experience, the desire, the means, and the opportunity to accomplish the job.

So I did it.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If you open and conceal carry are you only half an attention whore?

My question: why is it that you are only an attention whore when you open carry and NOT when you put a video of yourself on the Internet?

 

[88GT]

There are many more sheep than sheep dogs (us), and the sheep vote too. Scare the sheep and herd will act en-mass.

I personally have better luck changing minds with rational conversation vs demonstration. Once the sheep get emotional, it does not matter what you say, they will never hear you. Demonstration tends to get them all emotional.

The sheep demonstrate all the time. Why can't we?

 

[paddling_man]

Someone had to do it.

I had the experience, the desire, the means, and the opportunity to accomplish the job.

So I did it.

But did you wear the shirt stolen from a prepubescent skateboarder??

 

[GuyRelford]

I'm asking because I'm curious.

How many different instructors did you pay to train with last year?

Four. And your Force on Force course was the most valuable.

 

[JetGirl]

But did you wear the shirt stolen from a prepubescent skateboarder??

It doesn't matter what the instructor wears. It's how they swivel their hips.
That's just basic ready stance 101.

 

[jeremy]

It doesn't matter what the instructor wears. It's how they swivel their hips.
That's just basic ready stance 101.

Soooo...

You like James Hips huh...

 

[JetGirl]

Soooo...

You like James Hips huh...

Nope.
I'm gonna just wait right here...

 

[Sailor]

The sheep demonstrate all the time. Why can't we?

No reason we can't. I am just saying I get better results educating with out demonstrating.

 

[GuyRelford]

I'll offer only one brief thought on this thread: I think it is is very disappointing when the gun-owning community confuses and distorts several very different concepts: (a) what is legal, (b) what is smart (tactically/socially/politically) and (c) what they personally prefer. I don't ever engage in the debate about (b) & (c). I have my own thoughts and I respect yours. But when anyone in a position of authority screws up on (a), which impacts the rights of law-abiding gun owners, my job is to hold them accountantable.

Guy

 

[esrice]

TFT FTW.

 

[ATM]

^^ But when they screw up on (b), it's my job to hold them accountable.

 

[Roadie]

I'll offer only one brief thought on this thread: I think it is is very disappointing when the gun-owning community confuses and distorts several very different concepts: (a) what is legal, (b) what is smart (tactically/socially/politically) and (c) what they personally prefer. I don't ever engage in the debate about (b) & (c). I have my own thoughts and I respect yours. But when anyone in a position of authority screws up on (a), which impacts the rights of law-abiding gun owners, my job is to hold them accountantable.

Guy

Hear hear!

 

[HICKMAN]

Carry openly and concealed. At the same time.

I could do that with open appendix carry.... only to have it be concealed by my "front"

 

[HICKMAN]

I'll offer only one brief thought on this thread: I think it is is very disappointing when the gun-owning community confuses and distorts several very different concepts: (a) what is legal, (b) what is smart (tactically/socially/politically) and (c) what they personally prefer. I don't ever engage in the debate about (b) & (c). I have my own thoughts and I respect yours. But when anyone in a position of authority screws up on (a), which impacts the rights of law-abiding gun owners, my job is to hold them accountantable.

Guy

and that's the bottom line.

 

[hooky]

Directly from the FBI's latest published data (2010) of the 38 Law Enforcement officers killed by handguns that year, 7 were killed by their own firearms (18.4%).

7 killed by there own own firearms is hardly routine. As stated earlier, the deaths from motorcycle crashes is an equal number. Maybe we should also discourage open riding.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

If you open and conceal carry are you only half an attention whore?

My question: why is it that you are only an attention whore when you open carry and NOT when you put a video of yourself on the Internet?

Great post. Can't rep you until I Obama some around.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I'll offer only one brief thought on this thread: I think it is is very disappointing when the gun-owning community confuses and distorts several very different concepts: (a) what is legal, (b) what is smart (tactically/socially/politically) and (c) what they personally prefer. I don't ever engage in the debate about (b) & (c). I have my own thoughts and I respect yours. But when anyone in a position of authority screws up on (a), which impacts the rights of law-abiding gun owners, my job is to hold them accountantable.

Guy

Well said, Guy. Thanks for boiling it all down for us.

 

[HICKMAN]

Great post. Can't rep you until I Obama some around.

just got some funny looks at work for laughing so loud