Right to Work Bill

[dross]

The union movement of the early 20th century created the middle class in America, I don't think that can be denied or even argued.

Sure it can be argued. One does not necessarily follow the other. Increased production and the industrial revolution was the number one reason for the creation of a middle class. In fact, I can make the argument that the union movement retarded the growth of a middle class.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Union participation was always less than 10 percent prior to pro-union Federal Legislation in the '30s and '40s.

To say that 7% of the work force steered the other 93% seems kind of silly to me.

Even after Taft-Hartley and Wagner, the majority of workers were not represented.

The union has always represented a minority of the work force, and as Dross said, it can very easily be argued, that they retarded economic growth in this nation, by artificially driving up the price of goods, among other reasons.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

The union movement of the early 20th century created the middle class in America, I don't think that can be denied or even argued. However this is the early 21st century and unions seem to be doing nothing for workers except protecting the jobs of the unworthy. Unions are obsolete just as is the Edsel and their standard retirement and health care benefits which are never funded through investment but only load more debt onto the employeer are killing them and this country.

America was "a nation of shopkeepers" well before the union movement took hold. What unions DID do was pressure employers to provide safe working conditions and higher wages, which made more money available for the "middle class" to accumulate, save, spend, and invest. You could argue that the new-found ability to "invest" in business ventures was what increased the "upper class" and made the "middle class" more prosperous.

 

[slackerisme]

Math from OK and ID can be found here, I chose it because it is not biased one way or the other.

http://econweb.umd.edu/~davis/eventpapers/OzbeklikRight.pdf

Looks like the unions may be misinformed.

 

[Caleb]

Oh look, the democrats are still on vacation...6 days now? $1,000 fine for each day starting yesterday....maybe they will go broke

 

[Westside]

Oh look, the democrats are still on vacation...6 days now? $1,000 fine for each day starting yesterday....maybe they will go broke

doubt it. The unions will probably pay for all of it.

 

[OneBadV8]

doubt it. The unions will probably pay for all of it.

They did last time, not sure this time would be any different.

 

[R.G.Gray]

No one should be forced to pay union dues. Everyone has a right to work.
It's time for Indiana to return that right to work to the people.

 

[goinggreyfast]

Math from OK and ID can be found here, I chose it because it is not biased one way or the other.

http://econweb.umd.edu/~davis/eventpapers/OzbeklikRight.pdf

Looks like the unions may be misinformed.

I posted this in post #380 as well. How soon we forget, huh?

http://www.indianachamber.com/media/pdf/studies/IndianaRightToWork-1-27-11.pdf

 

[slackerisme]

Sorry, I can only wade through so much chest high in one day. I had read the report a month or so ago while researching the subject for an assignment.

I posted this in post #380 as well. How soon we forget, huh?

http://www.indianachamber.com/media/pdf/studies/IndianaRightToWork-1-27-11.pdf

 

[Doug]

Hey, good news, guys.
AFL-CIO is talking about picketing the Super Bowl!
Yeah! Make those one-percenter football players cross a line and be called SCABS.
That'll sure help the Demoncraps and the unions.

 

[24Carat]

doubt it. The unions will probably pay for all of it.

Yeah, what's hilarious is that every dime that is spent by Unions paying for their willing dupes fines is one less dime that will go into a Democratic campaign coffer or PAC !!!!

 

[Doug]

Yeah, what's hilarious is that every dime that is spent by Unions paying for their willing dupes fines is one less dime that will go into a[STRIKE] Democratic campaign coffer or PAC[/STRIKE] Pension Fund !!!!

FIFY

 

[rooster007]

HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT , OUR UNION IS EXEMPT FROM INDIANA'S RIGHT TO WORK ,AND WE ARE EXEMPT FROM YOUR BLEEDINDG HEART LIBERALS (PROGRESIVE) OBAMA CARE UNTIL 2018 HEALTHCARE . GUESS WHAT UNION I BELONG TO . THINK ABOUT WHAT POS CANIDATE YOU VOTE FOR . CAUSE I KNOW A BUNCH OF YOU VOTED FOR HOPE AND CHANGE . YOU HAVE GOTTEN WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

 

[sepe]

I've got several friends that have been going down to represent their union. Some of their comments trying to get support have been pretty funny and kind of pathetic. Most of them have short memories too as they hated the company they work for before they got into the union. A couple of them also hate that they're only making $1-2 more an hour than another manufacturer a couple miles from their front door that does the exact same thing and isn't unionized.

 

[NYFelon]

HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT , OUR UNION IS EXEMPT FROM INDIANA'S RIGHT TO WORK ,AND WE ARE EXEMPT FROM YOUR BLEEDINDG HEART LIBERALS (PROGRESIVE) OBAMA CARE UNTIL 2018 HEALTHCARE . GUESS WHAT UNION I BELONG TO . THINK ABOUT WHAT POS CANIDATE YOU VOTE FOR . CAUSE I KNOW A BUNCH OF YOU VOTED FOR HOPE AND CHANGE . YOU HAVE GOTTEN WHAT YOU ASKED FOR

why are you shouting?

 

[Roadie]

I've got several friends that have been going down to represent their union. Some of their comments trying to get support have been pretty funny and kind of pathetic. Most of them have short memories too as they hated the company they work for before they got into the union. A couple of them also hate that they're only making $1-2 more an hour than another manufacturer a couple miles from their front door that does the exact same thing and isn't unionized.

Sorry, that's not possible. Unions ensure that workers make twice what their non Union counterparts make, so i am told..

 

[sepe]

Sorry, that's not possible. Unions ensure that workers make twice what their non Union counterparts make, so i am told..

It should be at least 3 times their non union counterparts. This world sickatates me sometimes. I don't see how they can live on their low wages.

 

[ATM]

HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT , OUR UNION IS EXEMPT FROM INDIANA'S RIGHT TO WORK..

Um... congrats?

Any other rights you'd rather not have?

I mean, Indiana is a state. It doesn't have rights and doesn't even work.

 

[Caleb]

why are you shouting?

Because he is mature like that!