Republicans will stand up on guns but not abortion

[Mad Macs]

I've never heard a Democrat okay with killing children. Abortion isn't killing a child. Deal with it.

Here is was doesnt make sense to me. Democrats stand up for their "beliefs" of killing children, gay marriage, racking up debt, illegals, banning guns, etc.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I've never heard a Democrat okay with killing children. Abortion isn't killing a child. Deal with it.

Oh really. By what authority do you make this pronouncement?

 

[bmbutch]

I've never heard a Democrat okay with killing children. Abortion isn't killing a child. Deal with it.

Really, care to elaborate on this?

 

[johnny45]

It seems as though republicans will stand up for gun rights, yet will NOT stand up against abortion, as if fear of losing women voters. I believe there are many women voters who vote democrat, NOT because of abortion, but because of many other factors. We should stand up against abortion as MURDER, and be proud that we are SAVING CHILDREN'S LIVES. Why do they not bring up that obama voted to kill the kid even AFTER the birth if the woman wanted? This is insanity, and its sick that republicans play nice, while democrats throw everything radical in their faces. This is ridiculous. All they have to do is say nothing other than they want to save the lives of children because they care about kids. Throw the party of compassion crap right back in their faces. Seems too easy yet they seems they are afraid. so sad

I doubt they will stand up.

 

[Mad Macs]

Oh really. By what authority do you make this pronouncement?

My own. It's just as valid as anybody else's and I haven't heard any good reason to think differently. I'm sorry, but a fetus isn't a human.

 

[Mad Macs]

Really, care to elaborate on this?

Sure, I don't believe that a fetus is a human being. I don't believe in personhood, I think that pushing that as an agenda in a political environment borders on religious indoctrination and that is a red flag to me.

Funny how conservatives want LESS government, unless unless it's to push their agenda.

 

[OkieGirl]

My own...but a fetus isn't a human.

So when do you believe something that has yet to be born has become "life"?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Sure, I don't believe that a fetus is a human being. I don't believe in personhood, I think that pushing that as an agenda in a political environment borders on religious indoctrination and that is a red flag to me.

Funny how conservatives want LESS government, unless unless it's to push their agenda.

How does this conflict with the effort toward smaller government. Under the Tenth Amendment, it is clearly not a federal issue and should be left to the states along with any other form of homicide.

 

[-Rogue-]

How does this conflict with the effort toward smaller government. Under the Tenth Amendment, it is clearly not a federal issue and should be left to the states along with any other form of homicide.

This.

Its amazing how issues have constantly been elevated to the national level when they should have been devolved to the state or local level. Simply amazing...

 

[bmbutch]

Sure, I don't believe that a fetus is a human being. I don't believe in personhood, I think that pushing that as an agenda in a political environment borders on religious indoctrination and that is a red flag to me.

Funny how conservatives want LESS government, unless unless it's to push their agenda.

Questions:
1) If a fetus is not a human being, then what is it?
2) How does it have a heartbeat, move around in the womb if not a human?
3) How can it have gender, early in his/her growth if it's not human?
4) How is somebody tried for murder, if they kill the unborn child, thru some violent act, other than abortion?

I've never understood the fetus isn't human argument, does this "other than human entity" when mixed with air outside the womb morph into a human?

As said above, states rights, not federal, so no, not looking for larger govt.

 

[zippy23]

I've never heard a Democrat okay with killing children. Abortion isn't killing a child. Deal with it.

Have you heard of Barrack Hussein Obama?? He voted for KILLING THE CHILD EVEN AFTER ITS BORN IF IT SURVIVES THE ABORTION. Really? i think you've heard of him. Oh and democrats are for gender specific abortion as well. Might be time to do some research.

 

[zippy23]

My own. It's just as valid as anybody else's and I haven't heard any good reason to think differently. I'm sorry, but a fetus isn't a human.

Just because you say something doesnt mean its valid. lets look at both science and religion, obviously religion says its wrong. Ok now science. According to scientists life has to meet certain criteria in order for it to be called LIFE. A fetus meets every single one of those criteria, examples being it eliminates waste, it responds to stimuli, etc. The fetus also has ITS OWN DNA. In regards to science and religion it is a human. in regards to the women who have gone through severe mental anguish for aborting their kid, if its not human and no more than a finger nail clipping, why do the majority of women regret that decision? What a ridiculous point, "its valid as anybody else's and i havent heard a good reason to think differently." Well here is one, YOU USED TO BE A FETUS YOU IDIOT. is that a good enough reason? Wow

 

[zippy23]

Sure, I don't believe that a fetus is a human being. I don't believe in personhood, I think that pushing that as an agenda in a political environment borders on religious indoctrination and that is a red flag to me.

Funny how conservatives want LESS government, unless unless it's to push their agenda.

Banning abortion would result in LESS gov't actually. Lets see planned parenthood gets funded by gov't, how many gov't employees are there that have jobs concerning abortion and abortion laws? Obamacare has funding for abortion, and has hired tens of thousands of IRS agents to make sure people are doing what the bill says(sure they are also reviewing everything else in the law but its part of it so its an example thats valid). How many inspectors, facilitators, bureaucrats are there right now dealing with federal involvement in abortion? way to many. Funny how liberals think they have a point, then always get shut down by reason, common sense, logic, and not last but least, THE TRUTH.

 

[bobzilla]

I love how the religion of tolerance and forgiveness seems to be showing neither.

 

[IndyDave1776]

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[zippy23]

I love how the religion of tolerance and forgiveness seems to be showing neither.

Not sure exactly what you are referrencing, but just for a bit of clearification Christianity is about God forgiving us, and we should forgive othes as well. the religion does not preach tolerance of murder, gays, etc. It teaches loving others, sometimes that means telling someone else they are flat out wrong. That kind of line is common from lots of people who are anti religion. Christianity teaches loving everyone, as god loves everyone as well. Forgiveness is key, but forgiveness does not go along with just letting everyone do anything they want to you. If someone tells me that killing a baby is ok, i will firmly disagree and explain why and do what i can to help. This has nothing to do with tolerance or forgiveness. The same people that use lines like the one quoted are the ones in this country that do not tolerate anything anyone else says, they do everything they can to trash the other side, and demonize any position they have without arguing any facts or common sense. Not saying this is you, just pointing out an observation.

 

[Mad Macs]

I love how the religion of tolerance and forgiveness seems to be showing neither.

I know right? They're the "only one path through the forest of life" sort of crowd, no?

Sheesh.

 

[Degtyaryov]

Banning abortion would result in LESS gov't actually. Lets see planned parenthood gets funded by gov't, how many gov't employees are there that have jobs concerning abortion and abortion laws? Obamacare has funding for abortion, and has hired tens of thousands of IRS agents to make sure people are doing what the bill says(sure they are also reviewing everything else in the law but its part of it so its an example thats valid). How many inspectors, facilitators, bureaucrats are there right now dealing with federal involvement in abortion? way to many. Funny how liberals think they have a point, then always get shut down by reason, common sense, logic, and not last but least, THE TRUTH.

Good grief, that's your argument? By that "logic", banning guns would result in less government because it would eliminate the need for all those expensive ATF agents. If you oppose abortion, that's all fine and well, but at least be honest enough to admit that what you're after in an increase of governmental power so as to intervene in people's lives.

 

[bobzilla]

I'm not anti-religion. I think you can believe whatever it is you want to believe. Unlike the people of the "tolerant religion" I actually don't try and tell people that their beliefs are wrong. I dont find that to be a very Christian attitude.

 

[SOCOM242]

I'm not anti-religion. I think you can believe whatever it is you want to believe. Unlike the people of the "tolerant religion" I actually don't try and tell people that their beliefs are wrong. I dont find that to be a very Christian attitude.

Christianity never claims to be "the tolerant religion". It does, however, rightfully claim to be the only way to God. (This is through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and the forgiveness of sin through repentance.)

Tolerating societal or personal sin is nowhere in the Bible (at least not that I'm aware).