when I think "premium," I think JP.
BMC, Noveske, lMT, DD, Colt, etc are all just ARs that, yes, may have better QC and some parts upgrades and maybe some cool brand-specific parts over the BM/RRA/etc, but I don't see "premium" there, IMO.
-rvb
I'd have to agree with an earlier post in this thread. That isn't premium, that is luxury.
That is "how do I spend the most money possible and get the best competition build possible"
On the 'bang for your buck' scale items like that come in pretty low. You end up paying a lot for only a little gain over the high-end alternatives.
On the 'bang for your buck' scale items like that come in pretty low. You end up paying a lot for only a little gain over the high-end alternatives.
I would argue the exact opposite. you actually get performance for the $ w/ something like a JP CTR. The gap between a BCM and a high-end JP in terms of performance is much larger than the gap in performance between a BCM and a RRA. Most people if I handed them a RRA and a BCM they couldn't tell the difference in shooting them other than looks. Hand them a JP and even a novice can tell the improvement in how it shoots.
If you make the jump from RRA to BCM you're buying improved QC, and confidence based on the brand's reputation for durability and use of "mil spec" parts and maybe a smidge of accuracy and weight savings. If you make the jump to a high-end JP, you're buying a gun that helps keep you on target and helps you get rounds on target faster. Improvement you can feel and measure.
I've got ARs all over the quality scale. My "beater" is a low-end parts gun w/ mostly RRA parts and a BM barrel. Something like 10-12k rounds through it. Cleaned about 3 times. It's also the gun I keep where I can grab in a hurry. The step up to a BCM doesn't get you a whole lot. Most could get the same level of confidence out of a RRA/BM gun by dropping in a mil-spec bolt.. if they're worried about anything failing on their entry-level gun, that's usually the part to worry about (my "beater" gun is still on it's original RRA bolt, even though it's on it's second barrel!).
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You have the CTR?
No, too cheap to spend that kind of coin. But I've shot them. My 3gun AR uses their low mass bolt carrier and light weight buffer and handguards and w/ adj gas and a good comp on a woa barrel it shoots just about as well. 99% of the performance and about 1/2 the cost....
Same idea w/ the 308 I'm building. I'm using JP barrel, handguards, bolt, and carrier. Rest is parts and it'll be about 1/2 the cost for basically the same gun/performance that JP would sell (minus side charger)
home built FTW.
-rvb
I have only shot it once, but instantly was like, "Oh, that IS different!" It's definitely on another level from my other ARs.
I doubt you'd've had that same impression from a noveske/larue/etc.
true you don't have to get the CTR to get most of the performance. Other than the flashy receivers, I don't know what you're missing from a CTR. Sounds like a great shooter!
And that's why I like building my own, there's always something on ANY factory gun you wish was different, eg the end plate or charging handle or muzzle device. But those are easy fixes.
Congrats on your "premium" rifle!
-rvb
What about a Troy Carbine?
Daniel Defense!!!
What about it? I asked for your opinions.
Do you have a troy carbine? Thoughts on it?