I see that sign at Dicks all the time.
Does anyone actually check their guns in?
What I don't understand is why every get's so all worked up over it in places it is a privledge to be and barely make a peep over it where they have an absolute right to be and they risk real jail time exercising their "right".
Public buildings, offices, their children's school... just about everywhere they specific list on the license you ask government bureaucrats for and paid and paid for then they give you a list of places you are not allowed to exercise your "right" and ya'll want to give a private property owner that doesn't want you on their property grief over it. Yet I hardly read a peep over the kings and rulers ordering you to stay off property you pay for under their order and threat of violent retribution if you disobey their supreme authority.
A shop owner just puts up a little sign saying he's not interested in your business and ya go apecrap over it, your government tyrant's tell you once to get off and stay off your own property and ya just hang your heads and mumble about the 5 and dime.
Thanks Scutter01, I must say I've been I little worried the LEOs would come running.
While legally Scutter is absolutely correct, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the LEO's running thing either. Most of which is related to the mood of the LEO's. Just because the sign doesn't have the weight of the law doesn't mean the LEO's don't have a book full of other laws to deter you if they wish.
What they don't know won't hurt them.
It's been a couple of years now, but my last trip through Ohio, I just left the gun in the bike's saddlebag, unloaded.
You couldn't carry in the dang Interstate rest areas! The one place you're more likely to have a use for a gun. That, and given the Ohio State Patrol's usually unforgiving nature, made me give up.
Meanwhile, if you want to see lots of no-guns signs, check out St. Louis. You almost can't turn around without seeing one, and it's a crime if you hop on the trolley or a bus.
Another place, the gun stayed in the bag.
In Indiana, I can't recall seeing any no-gun signs in the neck of the woods we most often go, with one glaring exception: The US Steelyard baseball park in downtown Gary.
We go to lots of Railcats games, but it's hard to be enthused about going about unarmed in that town. As one of my Gary PD friends remarked, "We gets lots of experience testing self-defense ammo... we shoot eight or ten guys a year (It's Gold Dots in .40 and.45, for them).
There's two ways into the park: the main gate, where the no weapons sign is posted (straight text, no pix), and through the Bennigan's Restaurant, which isn't posted.
I don't think I've ever carried into the park in the dozens of times we've been there, but it's not comfortable de-gunning in the parking lots or on the street, especially on the motorcycle out in the open.
The Gary PD has coppers looking over the incoming patrons pretty closely, so if I did carry, it'd probably be only in a Smart Carry/Thunderwear.
I carry a few pocket cards with some info printed on them. The cards read:
Front
I have noticed your sign and am going to
respect your wishes by shopping elsewhere.
(ghostbuster signs here: No gun=no $)
You lost my business today and in the future.
IN LTC holders are among the most law-abiding
citizens in the state. Most of us will not bring a weapon
where it is unwelcome. The same cannot be said of
criminals who, by definition, do not obey the law.
Back
As the holder of an Indiana
License to Carry a Handgun:
I have passed both an Indiana State Police and an FBI criminal history background check.
I have never been convicted of a crime for which I could have been sentenced to over one year.
I have never had a felony conviction (ever).
I have no convictions involving unsafe handling of a handgun.
I am not a drug or alcohol abuser, nor am I prone to violent or emotionally unstable conduct.
I have no mental defects or disabilities.
How much do you know about your other customers?
Would they willingly and lawfully defend you or your employees in the event of a criminal attack?
I have yet to give one out.
Blessings,
Bill
If the property belongs to the city they can ban guns, ordinance or not. Done all the time here in (my former residence) Indy. The field house, stadium, library, etc.Does the city of Gary have an ordinance that forbids carry there? I know the IC does not. ... snip ...
Blessings,
Bill
I am pretty sure I'd rather be chased on foot by wild bears w/ a .22 than go to Gary anytime, day or night. Give me a M16, then maybe I'll think about it. Being 120lbs soaking wet does not exactly help my chances in a town like that also.I'm afraid I have no idea what the heck Gary thinks. My friend is a fairly high-ranking GPD supervisor (but I hesitate to identify him), and he tells me point-blank not to go in there, or anywhere in Gary at night, unarmed, and said he didn't know of a prohibition.
So I have no clue what's up. I'm just reading the sign to you.