OK, I didn't watch the convention (I work in emergency medicine: If I want to be lied to, I'll just go to work!) But the above leaves me with a question or two, namely,
1) Did Cruz really say that line?
2) If he did, what does he recommend? It's a given that either Trump or Clinton will be the next resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I don't like that fact, but not liking it doesn't make it untrue. With that in mind, it would be... well, not a wasted vote, exactly, but a vote that says, "I want someone else to decide who goes to Washington and who goes back to New York." with the end result being exactly that. (I am, for the moment, not considering the Electoral College in this discussion.)
So, either Cruz is saying "I hate Trump, and will vote against him", "I hate Hillary, and will vote against her", or "I hate them both and am letting others decide for me" and since he said "vote your conscience", that implies that you WILL vote, so abstaining is not considered here.
I cannot imagine that someone who considers himself GOP would call for people to vote HRC. I find it equally difficult to believe that Cruz considers Trump to be anything but a RINO.
I think we are all in agreement here that whichever is chosen, this election is a giant poop sandwich, and we all get to chow down for the next 4 years minimum.
Ideally, HRC will have a fatal heart attack in the early morning hours of 11/8/2016. If you want the real ideal situation, so will the entire Electoral College.
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
(Source: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina
[ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin]
as found on Stalin Quote: 'It Isn't the People Who Vote that Count'
Blessings,
Bill
OK, I didn't watch the convention (I work in emergency medicine: If I want to be lied to, I'll just go to work!) But the above leaves me with a question or two, namely,
1) Did Cruz really say that line?
2) If he did, what does he recommend? It's a given that either Trump or Clinton will be the next resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I don't like that fact, but not liking it doesn't make it untrue. With that in mind, it would be... well, not a wasted vote, exactly, but a vote that says, "I want someone else to decide who goes to Washington and who goes back to New York." with the end result being exactly that. (I am, for the moment, not considering the Electoral College in this discussion.)
So, either Cruz is saying "I hate Trump, and will vote against him", "I hate Hillary, and will vote against her", or "I hate them both and am letting others decide for me" and since he said "vote your conscience", that implies that you WILL vote, so abstaining is not considered here.
I cannot imagine that someone who considers himself GOP would call for people to vote HRC. I find it equally difficult to believe that Cruz considers Trump to be anything but a RINO.
I think we are all in agreement here that whichever is chosen, this election is a giant poop sandwich, and we all get to chow down for the next 4 years minimum.
Ideally, HRC will have a fatal heart attack in the early morning hours of 11/8/2016. If you want the real ideal situation, so will the entire Electoral College.
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
(Source: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina
[ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin]
as found on Stalin Quote: 'It Isn't the People Who Vote that Count'
Blessings,
Bill
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
(Source: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina
[ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin]
OK, I didn't watch the convention (I work in emergency medicine: If I want to be lied to, I'll just go to work!) But the above leaves me with a question or two, namely,
1) Did Cruz really say that line?
2) If he did, what does he recommend? It's a given that either Trump or Clinton will be the next resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I don't like that fact, but not liking it doesn't make it untrue. With that in mind, it would be... well, not a wasted vote, exactly, but a vote that says, "I want someone else to decide who goes to Washington and who goes back to New York." with the end result being exactly that. (I am, for the moment, not considering the Electoral College in this discussion.)
So, either Cruz is saying "I hate Trump, and will vote against him", "I hate Hillary, and will vote against her", or "I hate them both and am letting others decide for me" and since he said "vote your conscience", that implies that you WILL vote, so abstaining is not considered here.
I cannot imagine that someone who considers himself GOP would call for people to vote HRC. I find it equally difficult to believe that Cruz considers Trump to be anything but a RINO.
I think we are all in agreement here that whichever is chosen, this election is a giant poop sandwich, and we all get to chow down for the next 4 years minimum.
Ideally, HRC will have a fatal heart attack in the early morning hours of 11/8/2016. If you want the real ideal situation, so will the entire Electoral College.
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
(Source: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina
[ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin]
as found on Stalin Quote: 'It Isn't the People Who Vote that Count'
Blessings,
Bill
OK, I didn't watch the convention (I work in emergency medicine: If I want to be lied to, I'll just go to work!) But the above leaves me with a question or two, namely,
1) Did Cruz really say that line?
2) If he did, what does he recommend? It's a given that either Trump or Clinton will be the next resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I don't like that fact, but not liking it doesn't make it untrue. With that in mind, it would be... well, not a wasted vote, exactly, but a vote that says, "I want someone else to decide who goes to Washington and who goes back to New York." with the end result being exactly that. (I am, for the moment, not considering the Electoral College in this discussion.)
So, either Cruz is saying "I hate Trump, and will vote against him", "I hate Hillary, and will vote against her", or "I hate them both and am letting others decide for me" and since he said "vote your conscience", that implies that you WILL vote, so abstaining is not considered here.
I cannot imagine that someone who considers himself GOP would call for people to vote HRC. I find it equally difficult to believe that Cruz considers Trump to be anything but a RINO.
I think we are all in agreement here that whichever is chosen, this election is a giant poop sandwich, and we all get to chow down for the next 4 years minimum.
Ideally, HRC will have a fatal heart attack in the early morning hours of 11/8/2016. If you want the real ideal situation, so will the entire Electoral College.
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
(Source: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina
[ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin]
as found on Stalin Quote: 'It Isn't the People Who Vote that Count'
Blessings,
Bill
The language, which echoes statements from the Never Trump movement, triggered chants of "Trump" and "We want Trump," as well as boos, from the crowd in Cleveland.
I didn't watch it either, Bill. But from all the news afterward, I do believe he did say those words. Though he didn't endorse Trump he did congratulate him on his nomination. In a Texas delegate breakfast the next morning, he said that even though he felt because of Trump's personal attacks it would be disingenuous for him to now pretend none of that happened but he also said he'd say or do anything to disparage Trump's campaign. My thoughts are he won't vote for Hillary and my well vote for Trump. Not because Trump is the best person to do the job but because he's a party man and will support the party.
Bill, I used to like Cruz. I voted for him in the primary.
He promised to endorse Trump if he was the candidate, now he refuses. He was invited to speak at the RNC and could have refused. He went and made a speech that was all in all pretty petty. He spoke to the Texas delegation amd said that he could not let the thimgs in the primary go. I thought he was a bigger man than that.
"Give us Barabbas!"