Police Action Shooting Middlefield Ohio Uncensored Dashcam Footage

[RobbyMaQ]

Looks like two of them (oops I didnt spot the left one when I marked this). the backside of the left one shows DO NOT ENTER form the cruisers perspective.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I can't speak for the others that asked about it but as for myself I'm the type that likes to know the whole story. The reason he was stopped in no way takes away from his actions. They were deplorable. I was simply curious as to what he did wrong to warrant being stopped. The story given doesn't jive (from what I saw, anyway) with the video.

Wanting a complete set of answers to who, what, when, where, why, and how seems reasonable enough. Unfortunately, we are condemned to being pigeonholed into one of two categories: Either we are cop-haters who want to see anyone who has ever possessed a badge to be shot, run down with a motor vehicle, or swinging from a five-stranded hemp rope or else police worshipers who don't care how many innocents, children, puppies, and kittens have to die so long as the officers go home safe at the end of their shift. Unfortunately, middle of the road expectations of accountability (particularly in terms of working within the Constitution) while still allowing for police to be able to manage to do their job doesn't seem to be an accepted position.

That said, you still made a commendable effort to address the fact of the matter and raise a reasonable question. Kudos to RobbyMaQ for providing the answer to that reasonable question.

 

[TheReaper]

So a guy tries to murder 2 cops and the most pressing discussion is why he was stopped in the first place?

Isn't this true? The first thing members on this site try to do is find something that the police did wrong when the guy gets out with a semi automatic rifle and opens up.

I bet rambone, jbombelli and mrjarrell made contributions to the shooters burial fund.

 

[cobber]

So a guy tries to murder 2 cops and the most pressing discussion is why he was stopped in the first place?

Yep. We RARELY get the WHOLE story about anything in life. And sometimes having all the facts complicates, rather than simplifies, analysis.

My guess is they were looking for him already. Who reacts to a routine traffic stop by jumping out of the car and opening fire on the officers? Odd.

 

[TheReaper]

Oh, and that was the furthest thing that I have seen of being "suicide by cop." That $h!t bag was trying to murder the officers.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Isn't this true? The first thing members on this site try to do is find something that the police did wrong when the guy gets out with a semi automatic rifle and opens up.

Yep, the first thing took 10 replies before someone you interpreted as blaming the cops.

I bet rambone, jbombelli and mrjarrell made contributions to the shooters burial fund.

Oh, and that was the furthest thing that I have seen of being "suicide by cop." That $h!t bag was trying to murder the officers.

So would you be satisfied if he said "murder-suicide" instead of "suicide"? It was said because the guy fired at police and then appeared to "Tebow" as was mentioned and await the onslaught of lead. That is where the suicide by police comment came in. Yeesh.

Posting in these type of threads is always tricky. It gets old having to preface comments with "of course this is awful and I hope the police are fine, but...". I think it can safely be assumed that no one here has advocated in defense of this idiot. To me, questioning the stop isn't to suggest the police were randomly pulling people over, but more of a "it didn't seem like the guy did anything wrong and yet this was how he reacted" type of thing.

Frank, that is a valid angle to this story. You know everything is analyzed to the Nth degree on INGO. It questions the recorded account of the event, not the actions of the police.

 

[femurphy77]

Looks like two of them (oops I didnt spot the left one when I marked this). the backside of the left one shows DO NOT ENTER form the cruisers perspective.

Yup this! Notice the solid white line across the outlet of the turn also, typically this is use in conjunction with stop signs.

 

[TheReaper]

Yep, the first thing took 10 replies before someone you interpreted as blaming the cops.









So would you be satisfied if he said "murder-suicide" instead of "suicide"? It was said because the guy fired at poliec and then appeared to "Tebow" as was mentioned and await the onslaught of led. That is where the suicide by police comment came in. Yeesh.

Posting in these type of threads is always tricky. It gets old having to preface comments with "of course this is awful and I hope the police are fine, but...". I think it can safely be assumed that no one here has advocated in defense of this idiot. To me, questioning the stop isn't to suggest the police were randomly pulling people over, but more of a "it didn't seem like the guy did anything wrong and yet this was how he reacted" type of thing.

Frank, that is a valid angle to this story. You know everything is analyzed to the Nth degree on INGO. It questions the recorded account of the event, not the actions of the police.

There's plenty of people here that "advocate in defense of this idiot." Their hatred for the police doesn't allow them to do anything else.

And yes, they're trying to make it look as if the officers were randomly pulling people over, so they can blame the officers for causing the shooting.

 

[jbombelli]

Looks like two of them (oops I didnt spot the left one when I marked this). the backside of the left one shows DO NOT ENTER form the cruisers perspective.

Thanks. I couldn't see that in the video. That clears that up.

Isn't this true? The first thing members on this site try to do is find something that the police did wrong when the guy gets out with a semi automatic rifle and opens up.

I bet rambone, jbombelli and mrjarrell made contributions to the shooters burial fund.

Ahhh... I see the INGO hating troll has shown up. What would you say you do here, badge bunny?

There's plenty of people here that "advocate in defense of this idiot." Their hatred for the police doesn't allow them to do anything else.

And yes, they're trying to make it look as if the officers were randomly pulling people over, so they can blame the officers for causing the shooting.

Other than trolling, and hating on the membership that is?

Nobody has advocated in defense of this guy. Nobody. But that doesn't stop you from trollin' and hatin', does it?

 

[hoosierdoc]

There's plenty of people here that "advocate in defense of this idiot." Their hatred for the police doesn't allow them to do anything else.

Hrm. Can you quote them? I must be reading a different thread.

 

[92LX]

Wow!!!

That was crazy.

The officers are lucky to be alive. Does any know were Savage was hit? The article says he was injured by gunfire as well, but it could have been glass fragments or something else too maybe.

29 rounds from Savage is pretty good in light of taking incoming from an AK at 15 yards. Was that probably his service pistol with a reload or do you suppose he had an AR handy?

Glad the officers made it through.

I looked like the initial barrage of AK fire was low and hit the front of the car. The engine probably won't start again, but probably saved those officers lives.

 

[88GT]

So a guy tries to murder 2 cops and the most pressing discussion is why he was stopped in the first place?

WTF do you want me to talk about then? Should I be tearing my clothes and wailing at the top of my lungs at the horror of his actions? Should I be condemning him to a deeper hell than his current lodgings?

I know, I'll go on a hunger strike in protest of his actions.

Looks like two of them (oops I didnt spot the left one when I marked this). the backside of the left one shows DO NOT ENTER form the cruisers perspective.

Thanks for that. I didn't go down to street view, just determined that it was the same intersection. I guess I didn't think a right hand turn like that would be a stop. Yield maybe. But not a stop. Good find. Thanks again. And he for sure blew right through it.

 

[MikeDVB]

Hrm. Can you quote them? I must be reading a different thread.

No, he can't... But it won't stop him from posting.

 

[Mackey]

WTF do you want me to talk about then? Should I be tearing my clothes and wailing at the top of my lungs at the horror of his actions? Should I be condemning him to a deeper hell than his current lodgings?

I know, I'll go on a hunger strike in protest of his actions.



...

I vote for tearing of clothes only if you post the video.
Hunger strike takes too long and it's no fun.
Thank you for your consideration.

 

[IndyDave1776]

WTF do you want me to talk about then? Should I be tearing my clothes and wailing at the top of my lungs at the horror of his actions?

I vote for tearing of clothes only if you post the video.

You never know, there could be a lucrative new career in this!

 

[jedi]

Does anyone know what type of rifle was he using? AR or AK?
the article said he has a 40 round 'magazine' on the rifle. Anyone know how many rounds he fired?
looks like when he kneel the rifle may have jammed or he was re-racking it?
were the officers wearing vest?
from the report one officer was shot in hand, not sure about the other.

 

[88GT]

I vote for tearing of clothes only if you post the video.
Hunger strike takes too long and it's no fun.
Thank you for your consideration.

I'm pretty sure you'd want me on the hunger strike before disrobing on video.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

After reading the comments and watching the vid, I too noticed the white painted stop line. That's a funky intersection though, and I supposed it could've been a yield or something. So to be sure I did the street map view.

Pull someone over for running a stop sign, and wind up with an AK blasting at you with zero warning? I do not envy you guys (leo's). Really puts the stresses of my day job into perspective. I am glad no one else was killed.

 

[DragonGunner]

Does anyone know what type of rifle was he using? AR or AK?
the article said he has a 40 round 'magazine' on the rifle. Anyone know how many rounds he fired?
looks like when he kneel the rifle may have jammed or he was re-racking it?
were the officers wearing vest?
from the report one officer was shot in hand, not sure about the other.

Thought I read shooter fired 33 rounds...it looks like when he kneeled he took some shots from officers to the gut, or perhaps thats why he kneeled....then he was in pain, tried racking and shooting a few more times and then a officer got more stable and unleashed hell on him....

 

[jedi]

so AK then?
does it look like he aimed at them or was it more paint and spray? looks like the latter to me.