Over Under for son

[thunderchicken]

Asking about a budget gun on INGO is like asking about a budget auto at a Ferrari dealership. What you want ain’t squat, and even good or great isn’t good enough.

Read the whole thread in about two more weeks, do some intense research. Then make your decision based on what your gut, heart, and wallet tells you.

Now admitting I don’t know anything about Indi. Gun Club, I’ve read enough posts from the fellows that have recommended them, from there postings I respect there opinions enough to include that in my research.

Just my 2 cents, a plain old probably used post 2013 Ruger Red Label will perform well until the young gentleman is ready to move up on his own. You can now watch and see how wrong I am.

When my wife and I go out back to bust some clay birds, (several times a year) I still use an old Mod.11 REM in 20 ga. My wife uses an old Stevens Fox Mod. B Side by Side in 12 ga. We seem to each break a few birds.

Best of luck to you.

Alright you asked for it lol.
Yes, a Ruger Red Label in good condition would be a fine option for someone starting out in any clays game. Yes, for most casual clay busters who only shoot a few times per year almost any shotgun will work. There are plenty of guns that have withstood thousands upon thousands of rounds and are still kicking.
But, in this case we're talking about a collegiate shooter who will likely be practicing a lot and shooting competition. That calls for a gun that's specifically built to handle the much higher volume of shooting than what most casual shooters will put through their guns.
At least to some extent, you really do get what you pay for.

I will say the absolute most important thing though is gun fit. If a person is going to shoot high volumes of shells the gun has to fit properly. A poor fitting shotgun can be miserable to shoot. So if the budget allows, having a gun with some adjustability is worth it.

 

[Mij]

Alright you asked for it lol.
Yes, a Ruger Red Label in good condition would be a fine option for someone starting out in any clays game. Yes, for most casual clay busters who only shoot a few times per year almost any shotgun will work. There are plenty of guns that have withstood thousands upon thousands of rounds and are still kicking.
But, in this case we're talking about a collegiate shooter who will likely be practicing a lot and shooting competition. That calls for a gun that's specifically built to handle the much higher volume of shooting than what most casual shooters will put through their guns.
At least to some extent, you really do get what you pay for.

I will say the absolute most important thing though is gun fit. If a person is going to shoot high volumes of shells the gun has to fit properly. A poor fitting shotgun can be miserable to shoot. So if the budget allows, having a gun with some adjustability is worth it.

Sir, I definitely do appreciate your words. And past that I agree with you 100%.

I can’t speak to competition, I’ve never been there. Just trying to give some good old time practical advice.

I can say I’ve owned my Mod. 11 for over 50 years. Bought it almost new, or slightly used in the late 70’s. Have shot thousands of my reloads thru it. Thousands of K-mart field loads. My wife’s Mod. B was my dad’s gun, he only squirrel hunted so not so many shells. My RRL, maybe 5-6 hundred.

I would not even suggest either of these guns for a skeet gun.

My point was to the OP, he doesn’t have to spend thousands of dollars for a good, budget, skeet gun for his son while he is spending multiple thousands of dollars for a college education.

The INGO community (in my experience) will say if it’s not the latest and greatest gold plated masterpiece, it’s not good enough. And I come by my opinion honestly. I once said I carry a 5 shot J frame as my EDC, you would think I killed your pet kitty. You should have read the wailing and out cry telling me I was gonna die. Still makes me laugh.

Well enough response, good evening to you. I only hope the skeet snobs will allow the father to keep out of the poor house without making him feel like “he” failed his son.

 

[thunderchicken]

Sir, I definitely do appreciate your words. And past that I agree with you 100%.

I can’t speak to competition, I’ve never been there. Just trying to give some good old time practical advice.

I can say I’ve owned my Mod. 11 for over 50 years. Bought it almost new, or slightly used in the late 70’s. Have shot thousands of my reloads thru it. Thousands of K-mart field loads. My wife’s Mod. B was my dad’s gun, he only squirrel hunted so not so many shells. My RRL, maybe 5-6 hundred.

I would not even suggest either of these guns for a skeet gun.

My point was to the OP, he doesn’t have to spend thousands of dollars for a good, budget, skeet gun for his son while he is spending multiple thousands of dollars for a college education.

The INGO community (in my experience) will say if it’s not the latest and greatest gold plated masterpiece, it’s not good enough. And I come by my opinion honestly. I once said I carry a 5 shot J frame as my EDC, you would think I killed your pet kitty. You should have read the wailing and out cry telling me I was gonna die. Still makes me laugh.

Well enough response, good evening to you. I only hope the skeet snobs will allow the father to keep out of the poor house without making him feel like “he” failed his son.

We're on the same page. I agree that there are many options that are capable of breaking skeet targets without spending thousands of dollars.

 

[Mij]

We're on the same page. I agree that there are many options that are capable of breaking skeet targets without spending thousands of dollars.

Yep, and thank you for your response.

 

[ryanbr]

You guys reminded me I have a CXS sitting in its box unused.
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What a nice shotgun to be reminded of!

 

[Dean C.]

We're on the same page. I agree that there are many options that are capable of breaking skeet targets without spending thousands of dollars.

It’s called an A300 or an A400 if you want to be spendy on an Auto

 

[Bleachey]

Did the OP ever post anything about finding something?

 

[Mij]

Did the OP ever post anything about finding something?

Don’t know. Your post is # 27.

 

[thunderchicken]

It’s called an A300 or an A400 if you want to be spendy on an Auto

Beretta semi auto shotguns are a lot of gun for the money. And their kick off system is pretty darn amazing too.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Beretta semi auto shotguns are a lot of gun for the money. And their kick off system is pretty darn amazing too.

I agree. I have abandoned my search for a Remington 1100 in favor of an A300.

I used one for charity event at Indiana gun club and it was amazing. Points well and is a real soft shooter.

 

[thunderchicken]

I agree. I have abandoned my search for a Remington 1100 in favor of an A300.

I used one for charity event at Indiana gun club and it was amazing. Points well and is a real soft shooter.

I honestly don't know what I would use it for, but I would like to have one.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I honestly don't know what I would use it for, but I would like to have one.

Same. Which is why I dont have one yet. I dont shoot shottys a lot, so I'm not super motivated. But if I suddenly came into money, I'd buy one.

 

[Dean C.]

Same. Which is why I dont have one yet. I dont shoot shottys a lot, so I'm not super motivated. But if I suddenly came into money, I'd buy one.

If you really get into clays kiss all your money goodbye, real drugs would be cheaper

 

[Indyhd]

Not being one who really shoots sporting clays, trap, or skeet right now, but would love to pick up a Ruger Red Label 20 ga just on the chance I would start

 

[Cameramonkey]

If you really get into clays kiss all your money goodbye, real drugs would be cheaper

I thoroughly enjoy SC. Shooting shotguns (and roller coasters) gives me splitting headaches after too much of it.

 

[thunderchicken]

If you really get into clays kiss all your money goodbye, real drugs would be cheaper

I've heard it said many times since I started shooting clays when I was just 10yo, busting clays has often been called a rich man's sport.
It seems harmless enough at first being able to shoot with just about any shotgun and a round of trap or skeet is often only $6-8. But then it sucks you in and next thing you know you're and addict and upgrading everything you have.

 

[Dean C.]

I've heard it said many times since I started shooting clays when I was just 10yo, busting clays has often been called a rich man's sport.
It seems harmless enough at first being able to shoot with just about any shotgun and a round of trap or skeet is often only $6-8. But then it sucks you in and next thing you know you're and addict and upgrading everything you have.

Heck a round of sporting is at least $80 once you factor in 100 rounds of ammo and course fees , it’s more expensive than golf or can be anyways

 

[thunderchicken]

Heck a round of sporting is at least $80 once you factor in 100 rounds of ammo and course fees , it’s more expensive than golf or can be anyways

Oh, I'm clear on that. Lots of wise men have said that in any clays game, in the long run the cheapest part is buying the gun.

 

[Creedmoor]

You guys reminded me I have a CXS sitting in its box unused.
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Lol. I've had that problem myself o ce or twice.

Dad, where did this come from?

I'm not sure son...