Open Carry Gun Grab (Georgia)

[LotsofGlocks]

Im not a big fan of OC. Brings attention that I dont need or want!!!

 

[groovatron]

Im not a big fan of OC. Brings attention that I dont need or want!!!

Not to get too far off the subject, but that avatar you have is hilarious......please tell me it's someone you know

 

[SMiller]

From reading the whole story it sounds like the guys lawyer and the D.A. are pretty tight and that the D.A. just wanted the whole thing to disappear, so no charges and end of story. It should just be known that if you even reach for a mans weapon that you will be shot or killed, and I don't care who is doing it!

 

[Jack Ryan]

People need educated.

That much is true, a lot.

 

[critter592]

I was listening to Armed American Radio and I thought I heard them talking about a case where a man pulled a shirt over his gun and he was charged with carrying a concealed weapon. Very harassed. So, seems in GA you are damned if you do and damned if you don't OC.

 

[samot]

Not to get too far off the subject, but that avatar you have is hilarious......please tell me it's someone you know

ive wanted to ask the same question

 

[jeremy]

Glad he had his wits about him. Training does pay real dividends!

 

[INGunGuy]

So, what about if it had been a off-duty police officer, or even an undercover cop, or for that matter a uniformed officer that attempted the same stupid thing? The guy would be dead and the story would be completely different. He would be the bad guy and the "injured cop" would be the hero. See what I say, there are people who are the "special class" off people, and just because of that they can get away with ANYTHING. And no this is not a LEO bash, just stating facts about how the scenario could have changed dramatically all because of the career choice someone made.

INGunGuy

 

[techres]

So, what about if it had been a off-duty police officer, or even an undercover cop, or for that matter a uniformed officer that attempted the same stupid thing? The guy would be dead and the story would be completely different. He would be the bad guy and the "injured cop" would be the hero. See what I say, there are people who are the "special class" off people, and just because of that they can get away with ANYTHING. And no this is not a LEO bash, just stating facts about how the scenario could have changed dramatically all because of the career choice someone made.

INGunGuy

That's a whole lot of assumption there.

1. Mr. Grabby got KO'd at the opening of the match. Having a badge does not wake you up faster.
2. An officer would have likely had a better grasp of the law and been less likely to be "Mr. Hero" via the path of "Mr. Grabby".
3. An officer would have likely TALKED to the guy which would have been the best thing to do all around.
4. An officer would have used a better technique than the "sneak grab fu" that only ends well on TV. They get training in such things.
5. An officer might have instead got chatting with the guy about holsters, ammo, guns, etc.

Or, and officer might have not been concerned at all.

Mr. Grabby went to be Mr. Hero and instead he got to be Mr. VanWinkle.

 

[jeremy]

That's a whole lot of assumption there.

1. Mr. Grabby got KO'd at the opening of the match. Having a badge does not wake you up faster.
2. An officer would have likely had a better grasp of the law and been less likely to be "Mr. Hero" via the path of "Mr. Grabby".
3. An officer would have likely TALKED to the guy which would have been the best thing to do all around.
4. An officer would have used a better technique than the "sneak grab fu" that only ends well on TV. They get training in such things.
5. An officer might have instead got chatting with the guy about holsters, ammo, guns, etc.

Or, and officer might have not been concerned at all.

Mr. Grabby went to be Mr. Hero and instead he got to be Mr. VanWinkle.

I agree with most of you points.

However #2 differs a lot from reality. I have had to sit on the curb handcuffed in 2 cities in Indiana because the officers were not familiar with our states codes...

 

[Bubbajms]

Here's a question (probably best answered by Kirk, but hey, anybody can take a stab)

Where does an attempted gun grab fall in the general "Level of Force" thing? I'd think that a guy trying to grab my gun intends to use it against me - how justified am I in shooting?

 

[Scout]

I agree with most of you points.

However #2 differs a lot from reality. I have had to sit on the curb handcuffed in 2 cities in Indiana because the officers were not familiar with our states codes...

How did the police go about it? did they sneak up behind you and try to yank it out of your holster? I bet you were confronted first. That's the difference.

 

[cce1302]

How did the police go about it? did they sneak up behind you and try to yank it out of your holster? I bet you were confronted first. That's the difference.

That's a fool's bet. It would be nice to give cops the benefit of the doubt, but experience does not convince me to do so. My brother got jumped from behind by 2 cops in Michigan for nothing more than shopping with his daughter while legally open carrying (he's a michigan resident with a michigan CPL which is not even required for legal OC).

 

[Joe Williams]

Not fond of any open carry except on the range, I'm sure
Kirk would agree. Play it safe....don't do it!

Isn't that kind of like not taking your car out of the garage because someone might steal it?

 

[Agent 007]

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[ATF Consumer]

Not fond of any open carry except on the range, I'm sure
Kirk would agree. Play it safe....don't do it!

I agree...and it should also apply to LEOs

 

[jeremy]

How did the police go about it? did they sneak up behind you and try to yank it out of your holster? I bet you were confronted first. That's the difference.

Actually the whole reason I was pulled over was because I had my CAR-15 in the rack on the back window of the truck... You know those evil black Military and LEA guns...

 

[dross]

Actually the whole reason I was pulled over was because I had my CAR-15 in the rack on the back window of the truck... You know those evil black Military and LEA guns...

Did they think you couldn't legally have it there?

 

[jeremy]

Actually yes that was the whole reason for the stop. Because only cops and the Army are allowed to have Mil grade hardware. Even got the firm talk of how I am going to rot in jail for it. At least until their Supervisors showed on seen... Then I was sent on my merry little ways.

Got to love Lafeyette and Purdue cops...

At least a couple of the ones that were there 3-5 years ago...

 

[Scout]

That's a fool's bet. It would be nice to give cops the benefit of the doubt, but experience does not convince me to do so. My brother got jumped from behind by 2 cops in Michigan for nothing more than shopping with his daughter while legally open carrying (he's a michigan resident with a michigan CPL which is not even required for legal OC).

So cops should go around tackling everyone with a visible gun, regardless?