One in the chamber?

[Michiana]

That's a good argument for not carrying.

Thats not what I said but if that is your opinion you don't have to carry.

 

[sargknows]

Para P-13 cocked and locked and taurus 651 5 rounds loaded up!

 

[Lilsoup]

You start your car several times a day on the average; you most likely will go your entire life and never pull your gun.

Hope I never have to, but im ready if the need is ever there...

 

[cce1302]

You start your car several times a day on the average; you most likely will go your entire life and never pull your gun.

Thats not what I said but if that is your opinion you don't have to carry.

I understand that, but I was pointing out the naivete of your statement. To carry a gun and expect to never need it -to not even plan for its use- is beyond naive. It's dangerous, to say the least, and invites disaster.

 

[Michiana]

I understand that, but I was pointing out the naivete of your statement. To carry a gun and expect to never need it -to not even plan for its use- is beyond naive. It's dangerous, to say the least, and invites disaster.

Thats me, Mr. Naive. Thanks for your guidance.

 

[oldfb]

I remember my older friend and cousin (both were AP) telling me that when they were on duty in the Air Force they were forced to carry condition 3 with their 1911. They said that they learned how to chamber a round using the front sight against the flappy holster mouth during the draw.

Also the spetsnez supposedly used that funky holster design and carry empty chamber and drawing the gun by pushing down chambers the round. For those that really are serious about it maybe that rig and gun would be the answer.

 

[JetGirl]

I remember my older friend and cousin (both were AP) telling me that when they were on duty in the Air Force they were forced to carry condition 3 with their 1911. They said that they learned how to chamber a round using the front sight against the flappy holster mouth during the draw.

Also the spetsnez supposedly used that funky holster design and carry empty chamber and drawing the gun by pushing down chambers the round. For those that really are serious about it maybe that rig and gun would be the answer.

Is that the definition of Israeli draw? Or is that technically something else?

 

[cce1302]

Thats me, Mr. Naive. Thanks for your guidance.

Oh, look, another reply without any substance.

What a thought-provoking, well-reasoned response.

 

[erik7941]

I carry a CZ-75, the safety won't go "on" until the hammer is cocked so I carry it with one in the chamber, no safety and the hammer down, but it gives me a little more trigger pull when the adrenaline starts pumping. I never really saw a point to carrying without one in the chamber.

 

[oldfb]

Oh, look, another reply without any substance.

What a thought-provoking, well-reasoned response.

Pot, Kettle - Teacup!

lol

Annie not sure on the Israeli draw.

I can say that racking the slide everytime you draw works in Hollywood. Lmao

C

 

[kingnereli]

Is that the definition of Israeli draw? Or is that technically something else?

Yes. Israeli draw is to carry without a round in the chamber and rack the slide during the draw.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

I can say that racking the slide everytime you draw works in Hollywood.

It works for the Israeli Defense Forces and most people who choose to carry that way.

 

[Aaron B.]

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[Roadie]

I remember my older friend and cousin (both were AP) telling me that when they were on duty in the Air Force they were forced to carry condition 3 with their 1911. They said that they learned how to chamber a round using the front sight against the flappy holster mouth during the draw.

Also the spetsnez supposedly used that funky holster design and carry empty chamber and drawing the gun by pushing down chambers the round. For those that really are serious about it maybe that rig and gun would be the answer.

I was thinking about that Spetsnaz holster too!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5H2GYOhKtM"]YouTube - Russian Makarov Pistol Holster - EFA-2[/ame]

Apparently they have a "push/pull" version too. You push down to rack the slide, then pull up to disengage the gun from the holster.

 

[Jack Ryan]

I understand that, but I was pointing out the naivete of your statement. To carry a gun and expect to never need it -to not even plan for its use- is beyond naive. It's dangerous, to say the least, and invites disaster.

No it's not. It's common sense. It's statistically obvious.

Half the population at the very least doesn't even carry a gun. If even half of the half that do actually ever need it then 75% of the population never needed to draw their gun for protection.

Paranoia and propaganda are dangerous when mixed.

 

[Sthunter987]

Is there really a choose? If it's not in the chamber, then why carry it. It takes another 1.5 seconds to pull the slide and be ready for action. In the same amount of time, your already dead. Think about it.

 

[bigiron]

I was thinking about that Spetsnaz holster too!

YouTube - Russian Makarov Pistol Holster - EFA-2

Apparently they have a "push/pull" version too. You push down to rack the slide, then pull up to disengage the gun from the holster.

i actually find this very cool for some reason. not that i'm willing to change my carry style but its quite interesting. i wouldn't mind having one but would obviously make you OC and some wouldn't be comfortable with that either.

 

[mskendall]

Although the holster is theoretically nice, I find it easier to carry one chambered. Also, with that holster I would probably shoot myself in the leg!

 

[cce1302]

No it's not. It's common sense. It's statistically obvious.

Half the population at the very least doesn't even carry a gun. If even half of the half that do actually ever need it then 75% of the population never needed to draw their gun for protection.

Paranoia and propaganda are dangerous when mixed.

Where did you get those statistics?? Are you just guessing? at least make an effort if you're going to try to argue something.

 

[SNAFU-M1A]

There is a law enforcement/firefighters training center in Indy. They don't allow weapons to be carried because of liability because someone, 99% likely to have been a "trained" police officer, negligently caused the firing of a bullet through the ceiling of the men's restroom at this facility. I don't say he fired it, as I don't know if he pulled the trigger, or if he was so lax in his handling of his gun, he dropped it and it fired. This should _never_ happen. The only way I would give someone as pass is if at the same time they were removing their weapon, they suffered a medical condition...then that is at least somewhat understandable.

If your talking about the training academy at 10th/Post they don't allow weapons because it's a city/govt building & it also houses traffic court. The exception is law enforcement. I'm there several time a year for training & I always carry as well as most of the other officers there. I've never heard of there being a ND there.

To answer the OP's question I always carry w/ one in the chamber. It's how I was trained & it's 2nd nature to me. I understand why some people choose not to & don't have a problem w/ it, at least they are carrying.