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[SavageEagle]

Further, in a discussion of the President, how utterly hateful or careless is it to employ the phrase "exterminating the evil"? Further, from whom do you want to "reclaim the nation?" 99.99999999999999% of all laws occurred prior to Obama's administration, a great many of them enacted by Republicans. Just what was Obama's that which cannot be suffered?

Socialist ideas and laws didn't come from just obamatard, no. They've been around since 1913 and before. And no, most not from republitards. Most have come from both parties because both parties are the same.

What was obamatards injustice that we WILL NOT suffer? His massive Health Care take over and everything he plans to do.

 

[Joe Williams]

You need to re-read. Should I write a sonnet to my contempt of socialism? A novella? Is an argument measured by its weight of words? Come, now. You're being silly and unreflective.

Further, that "good" you claim you found is a comparative good, if that.



Oh, but you're not honest. Far from it. You're lying, because you need a straw man.

Further, in a discussion of the President, how utterly hateful or careless is it to employ the phrase "exterminating the evil"? Further, from whom do you want to "reclaim the nation?" 99.99999999999999% of all laws occurred prior to Obama's administration, a great many of them enacted by Republicans. Just what was Obama's that which cannot be suffered?

Obama? You give your messiah too much credit. The discussion is about leftist ideals, socialism, communism. Much as he may love to do so, he cannot claim credit for it. All closely linked ideologies responsible for more violent death than any other, responsible for slavery, oppression, and misery unequaled in human history. I'll stand by my words. It's an evil that must be exterminated if we wish to remain free.

As for what is Obama's fault? He's leading headlong the charge to impose that evil on this nation, leading a revolution to overthrow the Constitution, and force us to become his subjects, rather than free citizens. I hope and pray that the November elections, if they are held, will result in a Republican majority large enough to impeach and try Obama, Reid, and Pelosi for their betrayal.

 

[smoking357]

Obama? You give your messiah too much credit. The discussion is about leftist ideals, socialism, communism. Much as he may love to do so, he cannot claim credit for it. All closely linked ideologies responsible for more violent death than any other, responsible for slavery, oppression, and misery unequaled in human history. I'll stand by my words. It's an evil that must be exterminated if we wish to remain free.

Knock off that Messiah crap.

As for what is Obama's fault? He's leading headlong the charge to impose that evil on this nation, leading a revolution to overthrow the Constitution, and force us to become his subjects, rather than free citizens.

Do you really believe this?

I hope and pray that the November elections, if they are held, will result in a Republican majority large enough to impeach and try Obama, Reid, and Pelosi for their betrayal.

Republicans are as bad or worse than Democrats, and there are no grounds for impeaching Obama. Engaging in the legislative process is not an impeachable offense.

The Republicans had power over Congress from 1994 to 2006 and over the Presidency from 2001-2009. In that time, did the Republicans:

Repeal Medicare?
Repeal Medicaid?
Repeal Social Security?
Reduce the size of the military?
Reduce our military presence overseas?
Run balanced budgets?
Cancel the income tax?
Pay off the national debt?
Ban abortion?
Get us on an asset-backed currency?
Repeal the Federal Reserve?
Cancel the BATF?
Cancel Homeland Security?
Repeal the Patriot Act?
Legalize national carry?
Remove background checks on firearm purchases?
Allow non-violent felons to own firearms?
Allow persons convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence to own firearms?
Prosecute police who abused citizens?
Legalize drugs?
Legalize sports betting?
Repeal GCA 1968?
Repeal NFA 1934?
Ban "fusion centers"?
Prevent police departments from receiving military weapons?

Nah, didn't happen.

My point is that we're screwed under any government, and there's not a darn thing we can do about it. This is reality. The French just seem to be nicer about it.

American government, as allowed to happen by Republicans, gives us this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drcr2Q6tdBg]YouTube - Pittsburgh Police Brutality after the G20[/ame]

 

[IndyMonkey]

So just a little bit more government is ok in your book?

 

[smoking357]

So just a little bit more government is ok in your book?

Not "more," just "different." That's all that's happening.

 

[IndyMonkey]

How is the health care bill different....seems more to me.

 

[irishfan]

Can't we all just get along

 

[IndyMonkey]

not with a misguided Liberal troll cruising the boards.

 

[Expat]

How is the health care bill different....seems more to me.

Taking over another 1/7th of the US economy... nah...

 

[SavageEagle]

Not "more," just "different." That's all that's happening.

You obviously don't understand what's really happening then.

The HCB that obamatard signed created FOUR NEW AGENCIES and hired 17K new federal law enforcement officials. Is this not MORE? Cap and Tax, err Trade, will create new government agencies and give control of some law enforcement to the UN. On top of that it INCREASES the size and scope of the EPA. Is this not MORE?

These two programs alone are socialist programs. If you WANT socialism, go overseas where they love it. We don't want it. We won't allow it. And if they try to force it on us people WILL fight back.

 

[IndyMonkey]

We have had socialist programs for years, that has got us into the problem that we are in now. People expecting the government to take care of them, instead of providing for ones self.

 

[smoking357]

You obviously don't understand what's really happening then.

The HCB that obamatard signed created FOUR NEW AGENCIES and hired 17K new federal law enforcement officials. Is this not MORE?

That number seems to be a myth.

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These two programs alone are socialist programs. If you WANT socialism, go overseas where they love it. We don't want it. We won't allow it. And if they try to force it on us people WILL fight back.

But Republicans cheer every time they expand the size of the military or police. Further, you already have socialism, lots of it, most of it cheered by Republicans.

I don't see Ballard and Mitch standing up to repeal the Colts tax.

 

[SavageEagle]

That number seems to be a myth.

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But Republicans cheer every time they expand the size of the military or police. Further, you already have socialism, lots of it, most of it cheered by Republicans.

I don't see Ballard and Mitch standing up to repeal the Colts tax.

I'll believe what I read in the bill and not some blogger. Thanks.

And you don't see me cheering on republicans do you? I know we have socialism. You don't see me applauding that either. And just because we have a little evil, you argue we might as well have more evil. Nice.

Our brave men and women have died by the thousands defending this Country against socialism and communism. And here you are trying to convince us that it's a good thing and we should just look at the positives and accept it. I'm sorry, but you're preaching to the WRONG crowd.

You know, since you like socialism, and socialists want to ban guns, I'll take your guns and ammo off your hands for you so you can feel a little better about it.

 

[bigus_D]

The HCB that obamatard signed created FOUR NEW AGENCIES and hired 17K new federal law enforcement officials. Is this not MORE?

That number seems to be a myth.

I'll believe what I read in the bill and not some blogger. Thanks.

Can you provide a reference to where you read this in the bill?

 

[smoking357]

And just because we have a little evil, you argue we might as well have more evil. Nice.

This evil might get rid of a bigger evil. I'm no fan of the plan, but if we play this right, we can get something good out of it.

Our brave men and women have died by the thousands defending this Country against socialism and communism.

Oh, horsehockey. They did no such thing. Further, the military, itself, is pure socialism. In the military, soldiers with children make more than soldiers without children. Married soldiers get to live off base, while single soldiers have to live on base. Single soldiers have to eat in the chow hall, while married soldiers get a payment in lieu of meals.

You will find no more socialistic enterprise than the U.S. military.

And here you are trying to convince us that it's a good thing and we should just look at the positives and accept it. I'm sorry, but you're preaching to the WRONG crowd.

That's called the fallacy of grandstanding. It's pretty weak. Knock it off.

You know, since you like socialism, and socialists want to ban guns...

...and guns are metal, and metal conducts electricity, and electricity moves at the speed of light, ergo, I can get to the Sun in eight minutes.

I'll take your guns and ammo off your hands for you so you can feel a little better about it.

Well, since I know the Soviet Constitution of 1936 from memory, I know that we say: "In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen." So, you got to work for things in this world, and let's just say that you have your work cut out for you in your plan.

 

[Truckerman79]

This evil might get rid of a bigger evil. I'm no fan of the plan, but if we play this right, we can get something good out of it.



Oh, horsehockey. They did no such thing. Further, the military, itself, is pure socialism. In the military, soldiers with children make more than soldiers without children. Married soldiers get to live off base, while single soldiers have to live on base. Single soldiers have to eat in the chow hall, while married soldiers get a payment in lieu of meals.

You will find no more socialistic enterprise than the U.S. military.



That's called the fallacy of grandstanding. It's pretty weak. Knock it off.



...and guns are metal, and metal conducts electricity, and electricity moves at the speed of light, ergo, I can get to the Sun in eight minutes.



Well, since I know the Soviet Constitution of 1936 from memory, I know that we say: "In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen." So, you got to work for things in this world, and let's just say that you have your work cut out for you in your plan.

 

[SavageEagle]

Can you provide a reference to where you read this in the bill?

I'll have to see if I can find the reference I read about it. It specifically stated the exact amount of IRS enforcement agents it would create. I don't remember the exact number, but it's between 9 and 18 thousand. It doesn't matter the exact number as even a thousand new enforcement agents is an army.

Oh, horsehockey. They did no such thing. Further, the military, itself, is pure socialism. In the military, soldiers with children make more than soldiers without children. Married soldiers get to live off base, while single soldiers have to live on base. Single soldiers have to eat in the chow hall, while married soldiers get a payment in lieu of meals.

You will find no more socialistic enterprise than the U.S. military.

I'm not even going to address the rest of your post cause it's so far out there.

However. There is no winners in this new era of BS coming from Washington except those who sit at home and collect a welfare check and those that get the special deals from not only the bill but the lobbyists.

That's not what even pisses me off the most. The fact that you have the AUDACITY to call the military socialist and disgrace the military men and women that died in Korea, Vietnam, the middle east, WWI, WWII...

I have nothing left to say to you.

 

[smoking357]

That's not what even pisses me off the most. The fact that you have the AUDACITY to call the military socialist and disgrace the military men and women that died in Korea, Vietnam, the middle east, WWI, WWII...

When Eric Stratton pulled that in Animal House, it was intended as comedy.

I have nothing left to say to you.

Nor did you, five posts back, but there you were...

 

[BloodEclipse]

Hi my name is BloodEclipse and I have been guilty of feeding the Trolls.
I try not to but it seems like I am possessed or something.
It is like an out of body experience. I know I should not be doing it, I'm typing away and there I am outside of my body saying."Don't feed the troll, he is just trying to stir crap."
I'm calling on my fellow INGOers to help me through this tough time. Please call me out, make me see the error in my ways.
I need your support and I know you won't let me down.

 

[DragonGunner]

I might be new here, but I'm not brand new....don't feed the trolls, because
you just can't fix stupid. Does that help BloodEclipse...?