New Black Panther party leader "we will deal with all you right wingers.

[fireball168]

According to Glenn's website, the Restoring Honor Event is on 8/28 - not 8/27.

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10

 

[ruger7722]

there is some good blacks,i just dont have time to sift through them.

 

[Redemption]

........and the clock ticks a little closer to zero....

 

[T-rav]

If they show up the 27th they will think they scared everyone, wow would the joke be on them! lol Too bad its in DC or (((GB))) would have highly armed american patriot security on top of his team. Gee so they are admitting they will be breaking the law and bringing guns to DC?

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

The panthers of the sixties were nothing like these idiots. You lack real knowledge of the Panthers, sounds like you ate whats been feed to you. Instead of doing any real research.

LOL
Really?

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was an African-American revolutionary left-wing organization working for the self-defense for black people. It was active in the United States from the mid-1960s into the 1970s. The Black Panther Party achieved national and international impact through their deep involvement in the Black Power movement and in US politics of the 1960s and 70s, as the intense anti-racism

SOL, can you help understand how this NBP is different from the old, the jargon is still the same old communist crap.

Also explain to me how "Black Power" equates to Anti-racism?

But the Black Panther Party's objectives and philosophy expanded and evolved rapidly during the party's existence. The organization's leaders passionately espoused socialist and communist (largely Maoist) doctrines, but the Party's black nationalist reputation attracted an ideologically diverse membership.

It's clear that the Black Panther party, was NEVER about Black civil rights, or anything remotely close.

It was obviously about pushing a Communist agenda, under the guise of being "black and oppressed"

50 Years later, thousands of free housing, free money, free aid, scholarships and not much has really changed, still being oppressed... Still wanting more..

We're talking about ideology which promotes this.

The belief in sacrificial killing and ritualistic murder was part of the early Nation of Islam doctrine. Fard thought explicitly that it was the duty for every Muslim to offer as sacrifice four "Caucasian devils".[6] A portion of Fard's lesson reads as follows:

Why does Fard Mohammad and any Moslem murder the devil? What is the duty of each Moslem in regard to four devils? What reward does a Moslem receive by presenting the four devils at one time? -- Because he is one hundred percent wicked and will not keep and obey the laws of Islam. His ways and actions are like a snake of the grafted type. So Mohammad learned that he could not reform the devils, so they had to be murdered. All Moslems will murder the devil because they know he is a snake and also if he be allowed to live, he would sting someone else. Each Moslem is required to bring four devils heads, and by bringing and presenting four at one time his reward is a button to wear on the laple of his coat, also a free transportation to the Holy City of Mecca.
—Master Fard Mohammad, Lesson #1



Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan later argued that the lessons about murdering devils was only a metaphor designed to "rally NOI members to 'slay whites' psychological and social grip on them"[8] but Fard's lessons on the murder of white people in at least one instance were taken literally and verbatim:

One afternoon in the early 1970s, when Ali K. Muslim, then Charles 41x, was guarding the temple, a man carrying a sack asked to meet a temple official. The man, thoroughly confused about Elijah Muhammad's teachings, believed that if he killed four white "devils" he would win a trip to the Holy Land. He had come to redeem his prizes. In the sack, Ali K. Muslim says, were four severed heads.
​

Some notable members.






Noted current and former members and associates of Nation of Islam

• Elijah Muhammad
• Louis Farrakhan
• Khalid Abdul Muhammad
• Khadijah Farrakhan
• Malcolm X - Later converted to Sunni Islam
• Muhammad Ali - Later converted to Sunni Islam [35]
• Warith Deen Mohammed - Later converted to Sunni Islam
• MC Ren - Later converted to Islam [36]
• Ice Cube - Was associated with the Nation of Islam, but never a regular member and simply claims to be Muslim [37]
• KAM- member of the Nation Of Islam and former associate of Ice Cube
• John Allen Muhammad - The Beltway Sniper, Gulf war veteran, former NOI member[38]
• Snoop Dogg[39]
• Benjamin Chavis Muhammad
• JT The Bigga Figga
• Paris
• Kemi Seba
• T.I.
• Kleen

​

Khalid Kill the Kracker speech, kill the women, kill the baby, kill the old crackers etc speech.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_rQyKx_dg]YouTube - Khalid Kill the Kracker speech.mp4[/ame]


SOL, I dont mind Khalid voicing his desire to kill me; Nor do I object to Mr. Shabazz's desires.
But dont pee on me and tell me it's raining.

NBP, old Black panther party, Nation of Islam - They are essentially one and the same.

All this "They were protecting they're community" is communist properganda.
Research Zebra killings, Death angels.

Look at South Africa, the great hero Mendala, and his communist backers, also in the video.

Sounds beautiful in the African tongue, doom on me, they're singing about killing me.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc]YouTube - Nelson Mandela sings about killing whites[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT34ymDKMhQ]YouTube - South Africa: Blacks sing about killing Whites (hires)[/ame]

South Africa, once a great Nation, now is the number one rape capitalist on Earth, with AIDS and genocidal levels; The founding descendants are being killed, men, women ,but especially children.


SOL, Im afraid it might be you who believes the properganda regarding the Black Power movement. I have no illusions of what they stand for, a far cry from the equality they spout, when they promote killing my family; Looking at the doctrine, and racial nature of the Black community, Im slighted to believe that the mass amount of crimes against they're fellow Americans are tactic's which were taught by the communist loving Black Panther party; who undoubtedly now have children in various forms of Gangs, crips, bloods etc. <------- P.s. those gangs, were too, started to 'combat' the violence which perverts the Black community, again, speech doesnt match action.

 

[Tenacious1]

The orginal panthers tried to bring up their own communties, by setting up and running various community centers and outreach programs. Granted there were a lot of violent leaning panther members, however, they were justified in their feelings of violence towards at that time an oppresive governmental and cultural society.

Blacks and other minorities could have dogs, hoses and bullets sent upon them, just for being non-white, and with no one to really turn to, since the police were the ones doing a lot of this to them, it's only natural for any people to ban together, for solidarity and protection.

Now on to this Shabbazz idiot, he is no different than a neo nazi skin head, he's ideology is the exact same, just replace all the white power with black. The society he grew up in all be it not exactly perfectly equal for miniorities is way better than the people of the sixties. He needs to stand on his own feet and lead the young men by example. Not spewing hate speech. Hell the orginial founders of the true BP condems his hate and approach to change. This man gives all panthers, but also black men a bad name, and further produces the sterotypes that exist towards them.

Nice post. I had the same question and you answered eloquently, articulately and impassionate. I don't recall having an opinion either way about the Blank Panthers. I think I believe them to be a group of racebaiting thugs but have never actually been in a discussion or researched the history. Apathy I suppose. But, your rational for the birth of the movement in the 60's is at least credible and worthy of my own time and investigation. I am seldom moved to investigate something I don't care about. But I find myself curious now. If there was ever "good" in the Black Panthers, how did American (or "African American") culture so marginalize them as murderous thugs?

Many years ago, an older "relation" of mine (since past) was racists. No other way to put it. But, he enlightened me with a remark and explanation that certainly has shaped a tiny portion of who I am today. During one of his overtly, not so PC, monologues said, "Now, that Martin Luther King. If the SOBs wouln't have killed him, he'd set these young punk ******* straight. They're to stupid to even know what a great man their hero was and what made him great. That King said it right. You make your own way in this country and don't make excuses or point fingers. The only ******** that felt sorry for himself hated someone else that oppressed him first. Martin Luther King woulda slapped these XXXXXXs silly today. Yep, King had it right. Make your own way and don't worry about whose feelings get hurt and don't make excuses. That's a man they should go figure out."

10 years later (give or take) and a few years after his passing, I learned that he had actually met Martin Luther King. The myth/rumor now is that he bought King a coffee and told him, "Go set your people straight." I believe he met him. But just can't picture Bamma 'wastin' money on a 'puke cause.' (his words)

For the record, 'Bamma', 'built a sand castle at Normandy on D'day.' (His words whenever you asked him about the war).

 

[Son of Liberty]

So the Black Panthers I saw down on 21st and College with M1 Carbines yelling "Kill all the Honkys" as my family road by in a car were just trying to lift their own community? The blacks that destroyed our Studebaker that night were just trying to strike out against an oppresive government? the BPs seen on tv during a shoot out with the po po were community organizing? So they're the original ACORNs huh? All these actions were justified since they were so oppressed? Hmmm, never made the connection. I think it's 180 out from that now. Blacks get the entitlements and consideration. Being white is bad and we are the cause of all the worlds problems. Give me a break.

Are you talking about in the sixties or now??
And if you are talking about back then, then yeah I would see no problem with responding with violence with violence. Seeing that you have a god given right to defend yourself from any threat. In addition Im so tired of the crying, blacks don't get all the entitlements, and whites arent bad just for being white. However, whites in this country don't have a good history of treating miniorities of any race well and for some reason everybody gets all sensitive when that fact is stated.

All people white black whatever need to stop crying the whoa is me cry and move on. All I hear is oh the white man is treated so bad, we get nothing, blacks get everything etc etc. It goes the same way with the blacks that still say "the man" is holding them down. No one is holding you down but you.

I do find it funny that you think it would be wrong to respond to violence with violence. Why is that?

 

[88GT]

Are you talking about in the sixties or now??
And if you are talking about back then, then yeah I would see no problem with responding with violence with violence. Seeing that you have a god given right to defend yourself from any threat. In addition Im so tired of the crying, blacks don't get all the entitlements, and whites arent bad just for being white. However, whites in this country don't have a good history of treating miniorities of any race well and for some reason everybody gets all sensitive when that fact is stated.

All people white black whatever need to stop crying the whoa is me cry and move on. All I hear is oh the white man is treated so bad, we get nothing, blacks get everything etc etc. It goes the same way with the blacks that still say "the man" is holding them down. No one is holding you down but you.

I do find it funny that you think it would be wrong to respond to violence with violence. Why is that?

How the hell is driving on a public thoroughfare with one's family a violent act against another human being?

Yep, whitey oppressed the blacks. But who freed them? It's not like they mounted an armed revolt and took their freedom back by force against unwilling captors.

 

[Expat]

The panthers of the sixties were nothing like these idiots. You lack real knowledge of the Panthers, sounds like you ate whats been feed to you. Instead of doing any real research.

Really? My uncle was a fireman in DC during the late 60's. The Panthers used to set buildings on fire to get the firemen and police to the scene, then they would snipe them... yeah, great bunch of guys back in the old days.

 

[Colt556]

Are you talking about in the sixties or now??
And if you are talking about back then, then yeah I would see no problem with responding with violence with violence. Seeing that you have a god given right to defend yourself from any threat. In addition Im so tired of the crying, blacks don't get all the entitlements, and whites arent bad just for being white. However, whites in this country don't have a good history of treating miniorities of any race well and for some reason everybody gets all sensitive when that fact is stated.

All people white black whatever need to stop crying the whoa is me cry and move on. All I hear is oh the white man is treated so bad, we get nothing, blacks get everything etc etc. It goes the same way with the blacks that still say "the man" is holding them down. No one is holding you down but you.

I do find it funny that you think it would be wrong to respond to violence with violence. Why is that?

My story was in response to someone saying that the Black Panthers actions in the 60s were justified. I was pointing out that my family was just driving down the street and was nearly attacked by the BPs carrying M1 Carbines and yelling racial slurs and cursing at us. What violence were we conveying? How were their actions justifiable? The poster said the original BPs were just community organizers trying to up lift the hood. I love the way that people who weren't even born then or having lived through it try to justify actions of others. I've seen blacks get every break there is in school, the military, college and the work place. Not saying whites don't get breaks too, but there was no White Student Union, White Support Group, White College Fund, White hiring quotas, etc, etc, etc. People should be judged and advanced on their abilities, skills and work, not b/c their skin is a certain color. The same thing goes for firing people as well.

Oh, just reread the previous page. You posted the thing on the Original BPs and someone else asked when my story occurred. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

 

[Son of Liberty]

My story was in response to someone saying that the Black Panthers actions in the 60s were justified. I was pointing out that my family was just driving down the street and was nearly attacked by the BPs carrying M1 Carbines and yelling racial slurs and cursing at us. What violence were we conveying? How were their actions justifiable? The poster said the original BPs were just community organizers trying to up lift the hood. I love the way that people who weren't even born then or having lived through it try to justify actions of others. I've seen blacks get every break there is in school, the military, college and the work place. Not saying whites don't get breaks too, but there was no White Student Union, White Support Group, White College Fund, White hiring quotas, etc, etc, etc. People should be judged and advanced on their abilities, skills and work, not b/c their skin is a certain color. The same thing goes for firing people as well.

Oh, just reread the previous page. You posted the thing on the Original BPs and someone else asked when my story occurred. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

its cool. But as a half black man, I haven't been giving anything and none of my other black friends were giving any hand outs. we all work for our own life, it's not given. It is a wrong and very nieve to think that black people are just walking around with the world handing them everything.
I work just as hard as you do building my life, as does most of the black community. I wonder though if you were in their shoes, and I mean really think of getting hoses turned on you, dogs sent on you, etc etc. and tell me what you would do?

To the guy who said he didn't have time to sift through the bad blacks to find the good ones, go jump in front of a train. How does that one slide, if I said I couldn't find a non racist white guy, everyone would say I hate the white man. Grow up a little my friend.

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

its cool. But as a half black man, I haven't been giving anything and none of my other black friends were giving any hand outs. we all work for our own life, it's not given. It is a wrong and very nieve to think that black people are just walking around with the world handing them everything.
I work just as hard as you do building my life, as does most of the black community. I wonder though if you were in their shoes, and I mean really think of getting hoses turned on you, dogs sent on you, etc etc. and tell me what you would do?

To the guy who said he didn't have time to sift through the bad blacks to find the good ones, go jump in front of a train. How does that one slide, if I said I couldn't find a non racist white guy, everyone would say I hate the white man. Grow up a little my friend.

I think it's ridiculous to belittle some of the thing's that have occured. And Yes, it's an 'in your shoes' type of situation.

I cant relate on that level; And I certainly dont think it's objective for me to dispute those beliefs as "ignorant".

And lastly, why would you need to hate someone because you *IF* your were racist?

Being a Racist, or Racialist, is merely the ability to acknowledge a difference between one group of people from the next. Science does, Doctors do it, Anthropologist do, everyone does it and I dont think there is anything wrong with that.

You have some decent points to your post.

 

[UncleMike]

its cool. But as a half black man, I haven't been giving anything and none of my other black friends were giving any hand outs. we all work for our own life, it's not given. It is a wrong and very nieve to think that black people are just walking around with the world handing them everything.
I work just as hard as you do building my life, as does most of the black community. I wonder though if you were in their shoes, and I mean really think of getting hoses turned on you, dogs sent on you, etc etc. and tell me what you would do?

To the guy who said he didn't have time to sift through the bad blacks to find the good ones, go jump in front of a train. How does that one slide, if I said I couldn't find a non racist white guy, everyone would say I hate the white man. Grow up a little my friend.

I could care less about a persons color.
My family is multi racial.
I spent the 4th of July with my Daughter and her Puerto Rican husband, a Black friend and his White fiancée, and his Daughter by his first White wife.
Since my Wife is Native American I'd say that I had a pretty culturally diverse Independence Day.
I judge someone by their words and deeds, not their skin color.
My issue is with the people who join groups like the Panthers, Aryan Nation, and the KKK to gain a sense or empowerment over "THEM", the perceived oppressor/enemy.
Those types are slobbering for a fight and if they don't cool their jets there will be one, and it won't be pretty.
The current [strike]administration[/strike] Junta in Washington has succeeded in setting race relations back fifty years by race baiting and dropping the "race card" damn near every day.
It's been my experience that people who call others "racist" are the true racists.
They are simply trying to win the fight by casting the first stone.
Mike

 

[sadclownwp]

I saw what he said last night. Hes a total wack job. Why dont they lock him up for conspiricy to commit murder? They would me if I said something like that.

What did BO say about it? Probibly nothing.

they can't lock him up, he is black, no one will prosecute him. havn't you been watching fox news

 

[beararms1776]

Kudos to the NBP

Listen to the NBP chairmen defend Shabazz's comment on "Killing all White babies." <------- "I am a self defense advocate"

Kill White Babies | New Black Panther Party | Bill O'Reilly | Mediaite



Impressive videos.

Thats straight out terrorist threats to kill a whole race of people. No different than an Alqida statement. WOW! Unbelievable. Watch out for your kids.
I don't get why someone like that is so misrable. He has a car, a job, the guberment, a bed, money in his pocket, freedom and food while billions of all race go without. So whats the problem. Barbaric ungreatfullness greed at it's best that's what that is. It has nothing at all to do with ancestry these days. It's all about money and free rides. Period! Those are words to launch an actual war! Unbeleivable!

 

[beararms1776]

Kudos to the NBP

Listen to the NBP chairmen defend Shabazz's comment on "Killing all White babies." <------- "I am a self defense advocate"

Kill White Babies | New Black Panther Party | Bill O'Reilly | Mediaite



Impressive videos.

They'll get theirs. When they kill all white's, they'll have to defend themselves against Mexican Mafia and Alquida. Maybe then they'll "remember when".

 

[Son of Liberty]

I could care less about a persons color.
My family is multi racial.
I spent the 4th of July with my Daughter and her Puerto Rican husband, a Black friend and his White fiancée, and his Daughter by his first White wife.
Since my Wife is Native American I'd say that I had a pretty culturally diverse Independence Day.
I judge someone by their words and deeds, not their skin color.
My issue is with the people who join groups like the Panthers, Aryan Nation, and the KKK to gain a sense or empowerment over "THEM", the perceived oppressor/enemy.
Those types are slobbering for a fight and if they don't cool their jets there will be one, and it won't be pretty.
The current [strike]administration[/strike] Junta in Washington has succeeded in setting race relations back fifty years by race baiting and dropping the "race card" damn near every day.
It's been my experience that people who call others "racist" are the true racists.
They are simply trying to win the fight by casting the first stone.
Mike

Agreed. My point is there is and difference between the NBP and the original. In the sixities the panthers and whites did work together, and they tried to do some good. Now there were ones who only wanted to fight whites and not better thier current situation.

Anyway you slice it this guy shabbazz is an idiot and should have been sentenced, for all of his crimes. I do believe if it was a klansmen or skinhead up there it would have been a different story from the DOJ.
If we are all equal as it should be than Eric Holder or someone in the department has done this country a great diservice.

I believe the best way to defeat this groups and people is to show them no kindness or sauctuary, when they are spewing their hate. They need to be ignored and/or counterprotested. And when it comes to them be violent towards other people, their violence needs to be met with violence.

 

[UncleMike]

Agreed. My point is there is and difference between the NBP and the original. In the sixities the panthers and whites did work together, and they tried to do some good. Now there were ones who only wanted to fight whites and not better thier current situation.

Anyway you slice it this guy shabbazz is an idiot and should have been sentenced, for all of his crimes. I do believe if it was a klansmen or skinhead up there it would have been a different story from the DOJ.
If we are all equal as it should be than Eric Holder or someone in the department has done this country a great diservice.

I believe the best way to defeat this groups and people is to show them no kindness or sauctuary, when they are spewing their hate. They need to be ignored and/or counterprotested. And when it comes to them be violent towards other people, their violence needs to be met with violence.

Yes, Whites did work with the Panthers in the 60's. Unfortunately is was the likes of Allen Ginsberg, Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, and William Kunstler, who championed the Panther cause.
Their goal was to use the Panthers to promote their Socialist agenda and cause as much trouble as possible for the Government.
I was at a Jerry Rubin rally in Cincinnati in 1969 and he was spewing pure hatred for "The Man" and all of White Middle Class America. He encouraged the Black people in the audience to "Rise up and crush their White oppressors."
About forty minutes into his ranting the Police broke up the rally and everyone melted away into the Downtown area.
That was my epiphany moment when I realized that the whole "Hippie" thing was just a power grab by the Socialists and that they were using the Black Americans and disillusioned young White kids to promote their cause.
I guess my advice is to be wary of looking back at groups like the original Black Panthers with any degree of nostalgia.
Most of the Radicals from my generation were no more than opportunists who were profiteering from the unrest that arose during the 60's.
Mike

 

[beararms1776]

I could care less about a persons color.
My family is multi racial.
I spent the 4th of July with my Daughter and her Puerto Rican husband, a Black friend and his White fiancée, and his Daughter by his first White wife.
Since my Wife is Native American I'd say that I had a pretty culturally diverse Independence Day.
I judge someone by their words and deeds, not their skin color.
My issue is with the people who join groups like the Panthers, Aryan Nation, and the KKK to gain a sense or empowerment over "THEM", the perceived oppressor/enemy.
Those types are slobbering for a fight and if they don't cool their jets there will be one, and it won't be pretty.
The current [strike]administration[/strike] Junta in Washington has succeeded in setting race relations back fifty years by race baiting and dropping the "race card" damn near every day.
It's been my experience that people who call others "racist" are the true racists.
They are simply trying to win the fight by casting the first stone.
Mike

I agree Mike. The guy is threatening an all out war against all whites and for what: Everything the Country has already given for him.

 

[ruger7722]

some of my best friends are black,and they say ther same thing, i aint got time to sift through them,speaking of whites.i mean what i say and they mean what they say.it takes time to become real friends to me,and thats what i mean.i dont care if youre black, and now white either.you just showed your color and i dont call it black.unclemike