New BATF ruling on stabilizing braces today

[Judamonster]

Is it cynical or based that I shrug at the idea of this registration being a back door confiscation list?

If you bought anything firearms related over the internet or used a credit card, the NSA can parse that data. Hell, just being on a site like this probably kicks us up to the top of the list, boating accident jokes aside.

Start buying a few dozen oil filters online, you will get a visit.

 

[Sigblitz]

Flip up sights or no sights, add 1 point.

 

[Sigblitz]

Flip up sights or no sights, add 1 point.

I think I have a problem with one, fixed sights might fix it.

Yup, need a set of fixed sights also. This is utterly stupid.

 

[Sigblitz]

Yeah and if the government tells you that putting a plastic bag over your head is a good idea, I bet you'd be in a race to do that as well.

People like you **** the rest of us.

So register it?

 

[Sigblitz]

Actually it's people contacting them and asking stupid questions. They led them down this road. Can I put a grip on it? Is it ok if I shoulder it?

 

[KellyinAvon]

OK peoples, lets keep it civil in here. Let's direct the anger towards our elected officials.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Let me put it a different way: keep it between the ditches or the thread gets locked.

 

[snorko]

After doing the worksheet, I need to add straps to my braces to get down to 3 points.

I thought the worksheet went away?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I thought the worksheet went away?

By the reports I have seen, this abomination filed Friday eliminates the worksheet. They are ALL SBRs now. Full stop. File the (free) form 1 or get your door kicked in and your dog killed. (or destroy it or convert it to a rifle)

 

[snorko]

And could need stamped to sell on Tuesday, and moved to nfa

4 of them in the first 2 pages, but one was just withdrawn from sale due to the new regulations.

I'd suggest everyone else with one listed should do the same

That was my AK-v 9. Sigblitz's comment made me question whether it could be sold after publication. Maybe yes and the buyer has the onus to conform or no and it is considered NFA instantly and a sale must conform to the NFA path.

I guess we'll know if all the braced pistols are gone from PSA, Bud's, etc.

 

[Sigblitz]

I thought the worksheet went away?

Could be right. They change their mind a lot.

 

[Sigblitz]

By the reports I have seen, this abomination filed Friday eliminates the worksheet. They are ALL SBRs now. Full stop. File the (free) form 1 or get your door kicked in and your dog killed. (or destroy it or convert it to a rifle)

Or a pistol?

 

[Sigblitz]

That was my AK-v 9. Sigblitz's comment made me question whether it could be sold after publication. Maybe yes and the buyer has the onus to conform or no and it is considered NFA instantly and a sale must conform to the NFA path.

I guess we'll know if all the braced pistols are gone from PSA, Bud's, etc.

It's not in the registry yet.

 

[bwframe]

They got rid of the worksheet that caused their announcement to be pushed back (along with some silly-assed election, where they might have lost more seats.)

Now they buried any question there might be in 200+ pages of nonsense that even the best ambulance chasers cannot figure out.

They are settling on obscurity that will likely make anything close a judgement call on their part. You cannot know, other than to err on the registration side.


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[d.kaufman]

It's not in the registry yet.

True but I doubt many are buying at this point.

Just PMd all the members that I seen that had active ads to think about taking them down once the new infringement is on the books. Just trying to keep everyone safe for the time being

 

[Sigblitz]

I'm in the same boat. They're not the quality receivers to get saddled with, and now impossible to get rid of.

 

[nonobaddog]

I think I will "upgrade" my AR-15 barrel to 16 inches. Would you replace just the barrel or get a whole new upper assembly? And why?

Same question for a 9mm that uses a milspec AR-15 lower.

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

nvm

 

[defaultdotxbe]

By the reports I have seen, this abomination filed Friday eliminates the worksheet. They are ALL SBRs now. Full stop. File the (free) form 1 or get your door kicked in and your dog killed. (or destroy it or convert it to a rifle)

The worksheet did go away, but they aren't all SBRs, not explicitly anyway. The rule itself is actually relatively short, only the last ~20 pages of the almost 300-page document (the rest is them responding to the comments they got from the proposed rule to justify the final rule) and it does allow that some brace pistols may still be pistols, but determining whether you are in compliance or not is even muddier than with the worksheet because it doesn't give you any quantitative sense of how the criteria are applied.

 

[bobzilla]

4 of them in the first 2 pages, but one was just withdrawn from sale due to the new regulations.

I'd suggest everyone else with one listed should do the same

But that wasn't really any dfferent than the last several months. I know, I had been looking for one.