Nashville Shooter's Manifesto (Language Warning)

[Expat]

What a load of crap. Our society is doomed. The courts have been filled with woke ideologues and other useful idiots.

 

[manifest destiny]

If the victims own the manifesto (of the murderer), what else might the victims own (of the murderer)? This seems like a weird tact/angle legally. Then again, lawyers are involved....

 

[Shadow01]

Wouldn’t a FOIA request for documents that we know the fbi had and made copies of, be able to override any judge?

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

 

[Ingomike]

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public | Joe Hoft

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public The following is republished with permission from AbleChild. The Tennessee Star released today a 2023 journal written by Covenant School shooter, Audrey Hale. The release of the journal provides very little...

joehoft.com

 

[two70]

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public | Joe Hoft

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public The following is republished with permission from AbleChild. The Tennessee Star released today a 2023 journal written by Covenant School shooter, Audrey Hale. The release of the journal provides very little...

joehoft.com

How about we put the blame where it truly belongs, on the people that commit these heinous acts? Evil exists and blaming inanimate objects, whether its liberals blaming guns or conservatives blaming medications, is just giving a pass to those that choose to commit evil. Nor does it do anything to prevent future mass shootings.

 

[Ark]

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public | Joe Hoft

Billions in Funding at Risk If Audrey Hale’s Mental Health Records Are Released to Public The following is republished with permission from AbleChild. The Tennessee Star released today a 2023 journal written by Covenant School shooter, Audrey Hale. The release of the journal provides very little...

joehoft.com

This gets into a huge topic that I've been thinking a lot more about recently.

I am starting to come around to the belief that post-1980 "mental health care" as commonly defined is essentially one massive, remarkably successful grift by people who don't want to have real jobs.

For many years, this kind of "healthcare" was difficult to get paid by insurance or state programs because it is, by nature: vague, undefinable, unfalsifiable, and unaccountable. You cannot blood test mental health. With a diabetic, for instance, you can test their blood sugar, apply a treatment intervention, and then see in a subsequent test that the levels have improved. Mental health is entire self-reported and subjective. This is a recipe for unlimited, useless treatment, because it is impossible to validate whether treatment is working by using objective, repeatable, scientific tests.

Well, a couple decades of aggressive lobbying and social attitude change have now made it very easy for providers to hook themselves up to a bottomless stream of money for "mental health services". Audrey Hale, over the two decades of ineffective mental health services she received, probably consumed the better part of a million dollars worth of services. I'm not sure what paid for this, but it was likely a combination of her parent's insurance, Medicaid, Vanderbilt University, and possibly her own insurance. So, basically, we all collectively paid for it, and the end result was murdered children. The "professionals" treating her were not even able to identify and report her as a potential threat before the shooting, let alone fix her problems.

The mental health profession and its academic feeder system has been plagued by scandal from its inception. John Money and Kinsey's pedophillic insanity was sponsored and nurtured in psychology academia. The Satanic Panic and the Recovered Memory movement came out of the therapist's office, ruining thousands of lives and sending people to prison before being scientifically discredited. Ten years ago, people were already discovering a massive replicability crisis in psychology, and the situation hasn't gotten any better. Fads and belief systems in psychology come and go like the weather, and the APA's woo-woo guidelines drift along with them, unmoored to anything resembling hard, repeatable science.

A $80 billion industry where $150-an-hour narcissists are accredited by $250-an-hour narcissists, to provide wildly varying and ill-defined "services" in perpetuity to people who never seem to get better, armed with the ability to dispense powerful mind-altering chemicals as if they were candy. More services are being consumed than ever before, more drugs are being consumed than ever before, and the result of this colossal inflow of money to the profession has been the skyrocketing of every single mental health disorder on the list, with an accompanying rise in violence and societal costs.

Is the therapy and mental health profession nothing but a bunch of woo-woo quacks, desperately insecure that one day people might realize they made it all up? Are they terrified that one day the parents of girls with scars where their breasts used to be, the survivors of school shootings, the bankrupted families of the perpetually ill, and the victims of the criminally insane will show up at their door with torches and pitchforks, demanding an answer for why these high-flying professionals haven't fixed people?

That $80 billion is expected to double again by the early 2030s. If you doubled the nation's expenditure on road maintenance, would you be angry to see a 50% increase in potholes, or a 120% increase in bridge collapses? If you doubled the nation's military spending, would you be angry to see the nation lose a war? Where else in the American economy do you see this massive spending coupled with an absolute unaccountability to results?

Of course, in a market economy, failed interventions eventually die out as people see the results and decline to invest their money in those interventions. Unfortunately we don't live in a market economy, we live in a centrally controlled economy, where government at the behest of industry lobbyists and useful idiots in the population dictates that mental health services must be covered, must be paid for, in perpetuity with no standards or expectations. And every time a high-salience event like this shooting happens, more money is poured into this industry of charlatans.

Sadly I just don't see a solution except cultural divestment from these failed practices, and these grifters have a soon to be $150 billion industry with near complete infiltration into government and media. Taking your broken kid to the shrink is just what you do, and that's the standard most parents use to make their decisions. So they bleed themselves dry paying for the grift, and in return they get even more broken kids who mutilate themselves, poison themselves with hormones, become perpetual pharma zombies, and just sometimes, murder children.

 

[jwamplerusa]

This gets into a huge topic that I've been thinking a lot more about recently.

I am starting to come around to the belief that post-1980 "mental health care" as commonly defined is essentially one massive, remarkably successful grift by people who don't want to have real jobs.

For many years, this kind of "healthcare" was difficult to get paid by insurance or state programs because it is, by nature: vague, undefinable, unfalsifiable, and unaccountable. You cannot blood test mental health. With a diabetic, for instance, you can test their blood sugar, apply a treatment intervention, and then see in a subsequent test that the levels have improved. Mental health is entire self-reported and subjective. This is a recipe for unlimited, useless treatment, because it is impossible to validate whether treatment is working by using objective, repeatable, scientific tests.

Well, a couple decades of aggressive lobbying and social attitude change have now made it very easy for providers to hook themselves up to a bottomless stream of money for "mental health services". Audrey Hale, over the two decades of ineffective mental health services she received, probably consumed the better part of a million dollars worth of services. I'm not sure what paid for this, but it was likely a combination of her parent's insurance, Medicaid, Vanderbilt University, and possibly her own insurance. So, basically, we all collectively paid for it, and the end result was murdered children. The "professionals" treating her were not even able to identify and report her as a potential threat before the shooting, let alone fix her problems.

The mental health profession and its academic feeder system has been plagued by scandal from its inception. John Money and Kinsey's pedophillic insanity was sponsored and nurtured in psychology academia. The Satanic Panic and the Recovered Memory movement came out of the therapist's office, ruining thousands of lives and sending people to prison before being scientifically discredited. Ten years ago, people were already discovering a massive replicability crisis in psychology, and the situation hasn't gotten any better. Fads and belief systems in psychology come and go like the weather, and the APA's woo-woo guidelines drift along with them, unmoored to anything resembling hard, repeatable science.

A $80 billion industry where $150-an-hour narcissists are accredited by $250-an-hour narcissists, to provide wildly varying and ill-defined "services" in perpetuity to people who never seem to get better, armed with the ability to dispense powerful mind-altering chemicals as if they were candy. More services are being consumed than ever before, more drugs are being consumed than ever before, and the result of this colossal inflow of money to the profession has been the skyrocketing of every single mental health disorder on the list, with an accompanying rise in violence and societal costs.

Is the therapy and mental health profession nothing but a bunch of woo-woo quacks, desperately insecure that one day people might realize they made it all up? Are they terrified that one day the parents of girls with scars where their breasts used to be, the survivors of school shootings, the bankrupted families of the perpetually ill, and the victims of the criminally insane will show up at their door with torches and pitchforks, demanding an answer for why these high-flying professionals haven't fixed people?

That $80 billion is expected to double again by the early 2030s. If you doubled the nation's expenditure on road maintenance, would you be angry to see a 50% increase in potholes, or a 120% increase in bridge collapses? If you doubled the nation's military spending, would you be angry to see the nation lose a war? Where else in the American economy do you see this massive spending coupled with an absolute unaccountability to results?

Of course, in a market economy, failed interventions eventually die out as people see the results and decline to invest their money in those interventions. Unfortunately we don't live in a market economy, we live in a centrally controlled economy, where government at the behest of industry lobbyists and useful idiots in the population dictates that mental health services must be covered, must be paid for, in perpetuity with no standards or expectations. And every time a high-salience event like this shooting happens, more money is poured into this industry of charlatans.

Sadly I just don't see a solution except cultural divestment from these failed practices, and these grifters have a soon to be $150 billion industry with near complete infiltration into government and media. Taking your broken kid to the shrink is just what you do, and that's the standard most parents use to make their decisions. So they bleed themselves dry paying for the grift, and in return they get even more broken kids who mutilate themselves, poison themselves with hormones, become perpetual pharma zombies, and just sometimes, murder children.

@Ark excellent post.

Indigent farms, and mental asylums would be a good start.

Oh, and actual safety studies, not approved by those who will profit from that approval.

 

[Ark]

@Ark excellent post.

Indigent farms, and mental asylums would be a good start.

Oh, and actual safety studies, not approved by those who will profit from that approval.

There's two angles to it: Dealing with the broken people who already exist, and changing the system so it stops producing broken people.

We need crazy warehouses, but we can't warehouse our way out of a society where ~25% of people are made mentally ill by bad therapy and drugs.

 

[BackFromDC]

So I guess the recent Georgia shooter has something in common...

 

[Ark]

So I guess the recent Georgia shooter has something in common...

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Lower image is fake IIRC but his father claimed he was bullied for being gay or something.

 

[BackFromDC]

Lower image is fake IIRC but his father claimed he was bullied for being gay or something.

I heard some call it false, but then others have substantiated it. Either way, it seems like the Nashville incident will not be an isolated one.