Every man for himself is a mental state that is fostered by predatory tendancies, malcontents and tyranny.
Not a mental state, but a cornerstone of human nature.
In the wild there are numerous reported events of the herd or group defending, circling and protecting the young or weak.
Even recorded accounts of the group going back to rescue a lost herd member.
Herd = Family
Small unit tactics foster a no one left behind brotherhood.
SUT's foster Mission Completion.
So I discount that portion of your statement with new evidence.
With human behavior, there is nothing new under the sun.
While the ism is bad because of the greed and elimination of incentives I do believe that it may actually be that part of those societies or groups that treats each member as valued which promotes doctors for instance to become doctors for medicine and not profit. Since monetarily there is no incentive to strive for more.
Man as well as every other life form on this planet is genetically wired to "strive for more"; without that penchant said forms will cease to propigate. Attempts of another to harness said drive is infringement and if fostered leads to enslavement.
In our MSG's I believe members quickly will gravitate to chores they are most suited to. People will trade kp for sentry duty or laundry and how soon after will the people with more physical or hazardous jobs start demanding more rations. The scavengers will demand more of the loot. When does the MSG transition to a working society. Placing value on individual needs vs the common good will test us to the limits especially if we are all armed to the teeth.
What is your definition of a working society?
"For the common good" has been used to destroy our nations founding principles.
Then do we disarm the visitors or the malcontents?
Visitors and Malcontents are transients and are more than welcome to move on down the road.
These are serious parts of our plan to discuss now. Try setting up a grievance process now .
Don't forget to visit you union rep for your ration card.
Please understand gang I am not pushing an agenda I want us to try and discuss this to help each other sort out issues many may not consider when working together to salvage the pieces of daily life. I don't want any of us to feel that I am intentionally attacking oppinions. If there is any of the nasty name calling or insults this will become non-productive.
I usually post from my palm phone which limits my ability to fully clarify every point. I apologize.
Family=MSG for this discussion.
But please explain dolphins saving humans from shark attacks or any of the other recorded instances of wild or domestic animals saving humans or other species.
Predators usually tend to prey on the young, weak, sick and the old the very groups that most of us find themselves compelled to protect because of what reason? Honor?
Small units by their very size do not foster mission completion over unit cohesion or cannon fodder the way large army tactics do.
When 4 men fight together they realize that any team member needlessly sacrificed or lost is counter productive to mision completion. Yes or No?
Most of the successful communes are very quiet and off the grid for many different reasons.
Primary reason is it is against the whole human nature strive for more ideals fostered by a capitalistic society. Is this bad? Probably not IMHO.
Is capitalism bad?
The biggest most public co-ops or communes tend to be clssified as cults.
The way the grow is because a leadership emerges that demands the members to surrender personal property to the leader and is then used for the creation of the group. Unfortunately the leaders or Alphas tend to be or become narcasistic and corrupted ruling with an iron fist covered in a velvet glove.
So how do we ensure that our MSG'S do not succomb to this fate?
The human nature you describe appears to be an embracement of the ends justifying the means. I realize that is the way society has embraced but in our group can we foster a better plan?
Working society and economy was actually my thought. Call it an exit strategy for the groups to emerge from the small world necessity of MSG life and back towards the personal lives and complete personal self reliant responsibility.
So essentially do you see the MSG as a dictatorship with the Alpha as the ruler?
I am not pro union by any means however a grievace process is what it is. Problem solving process or whatever the term.
Who decides that a member has out stayed his welcome? Is there a vote?
Thanks for the thoughts. Maybe others have some working solutions, ideas or questions. Please feel free to join in.
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