More Drug War Nonsense

[mrjarrell]

I wonder who is the one that is responsible for feeding the TROLL? I see he is back

I think they're traveling in pairs for comfort and safety.

 

[ol' trucker]

I think they're traveling in pairs for comfort and safety.

I think your right.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Im sure if it was legal the crack heads would be working 40 hours a week to make enough money to buy the now legal drugs right?

This...end of thread....end of argument for the legalization of hard drugs.

 

[Security122]

Hmm... having a prescription for pseudoephedrine would mean my insurance company would pay for it, or at least most of it.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Too many people.or should I say sheeple like you,is why we are loosing our freedoms. I don't care too much for a meth head anymore than the next man. and yes I have plenty of knowledge,and research about the drug,to know that it is a life sucking,brain killing monster. but that still doesn't change the fact that we are still(for a little while longer)supposed to be living in a free country. and if I want to go spend $5000 on whatever I want to spend it on. IT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT to tell me I can't. why can a gambling addict go to the store, leaving his kids at home hungry,and spend his whole paycheck on lottery tickets. someone spending all their money on rims for their car. buying alcohal,cigarettes,whores, or you just name it. the list could go on forever.BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A FREE COUNTRY.as long as you are not threatening anyone's life. stealing,or sucking off of all of us tax payers. it is not for anyone to say how,and what. or how much of anything that you want to buy....of course unless your married

Your the sheep. We are not a free county. Never have been...never were supposed to be. You want to be in a free county? Try Nigeria if your such a trailblazing patriot and I am just a sheeple.

 

[jeremy]

Your the sheep. We are not a free county. Never have been...never were supposed to be. You want to be in a free county? Try Nigeria if your such a trailblazing patriot and I am just a sheeple.

You are right.
We started out and were meant to stay a Republic...
Then somehow somewhere along the way We became a Democracy...
And right now we are on the verge of becoming an Empire...

 

[ol' trucker]

Right.

Your the sheep. We are not a free county. Never have been...never were supposed to be. You want to be in a free county? Try Nigeria if your such a trailblazing patriot and I am just a sheeple.

Good answer. we should let them tell us what,and where and how much we can buy of any certain item. just because they are the almighty government. and we are never supposed to be a free country. Cool

 

[ol' trucker]

You are right.
We started out and were meant to stay a Republic...
Then somehow somewhere along the way We became a Democracy...
And right now we are on the verge of becoming an Empire...

Unfortinately that is true. because you know what happens to all Empires....

 

[rambone]

Your the sheep. We are not a free county. Never have been...never were supposed to be. You want to be in a free county? Try Nigeria if your such a trailblazing patriot and I am just a sheeple.

Thanks for putting all these freedom loving folks back in their place. I too grow weary of their constant resistance to being ruled. We live in a Police State, not a free country. If they don't like asking for permission to buy allergy pills, they can go back to Nigeria and take that patriotic nonsense with them.

Servility and injustice for all.

 

[JDonhardt]

Eliminate all laws. Let the strong survive.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Thanks for putting all these freedom loving folks back in their place. I too grow weary of their constant resistance to being ruled. We live in a Police State, not a free country. If they don't like asking for permission to buy allergy pills, they can go back to Nigeria and take that patriotic nonsense with them.

Servility and injustice for all.

You have no idea what freedom really is or what it cost. Your acting like not being able to by INSANE amount of a product used to make a very dangerous drug is the same thing as the man kicking in your door and raiding your home.

Yes there could be someone needing to provide cold medication for an entire army that will be turned away. The law was made to better the whole. How do you feel about persons convicted of A felonies owning firearms? What about a convicted sex offender running a daycare?

 

[JDonhardt]

You have no idea what freedom really is or what it cost. Your acting like not being able to by INSANE amount of a product used to make a very dangerous drug is the same thing as the man kicking in your door and raiding your home.

Yes there could be someone needing to provide cold medication for an entire army that will be turned away. The law was made to better the whole. How do you feel about persons convicted of A felonies owning firearms? What about a convicted sex offender running a daycare?

What freedom really means is exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.

You are talking about something else.

 

[Keyser Soze]

What freedom really means is exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.

You are talking about something else.

No one is completely free. In society's with no government the strong rule the week. We are in fact....or at least used to be a self regulating society. Rules are made by the majority for the majority. Some argue all things are pretty much controlled by the elite 1% of the population.

 

[Duncan]

Legalize it all...

Punish those that step on it, similar to they way most people do with those that consume to much Alcohol and drive.



Really?! Why?! How has putting limits on the Ingredents helped curtail the Manufacture of it anywhere?!

So someone like me that spends Months if not years away from a WalMart should be punished for trying to secure what I need to Survive and keep those with me alive and healthy...

You realize these are also some of the items needed...
Lithium batteries
Rubbing alcohol
Rock or table salt
Coolers
Coffee filters
Aluminum foil
Matchbooks
Camping fuel
Drain cleaner
Paint thinner
Starter fluid
Brake cleaner
Gas additives
Sodium hydroxide (lye)
Hydrogen peroxide
Muriatic Acid
Sulfuric acid
Iodine
Toluene
Acetone
Clear plastic tubing
(used in aquariums)
Propane tanks
Road flares
Dry ice
Ammonium nitrate
Ammonium sulfate
Anhydrous ammonia

If you buy to many of these at the same time it is also tracked by some States...

I own most of these things ... am I a meth head ?
Duncan

 

[Whosyer]

You have no idea what freedom really is or what it cost. Your acting like not being able to by INSANE amount of a product used to make a very dangerous drug is the same thing as the man kicking in your door and raiding your home.

Yes there could be someone needing to provide cold medication for an entire army that will be turned away. The law was made to better the whole. How do you feel about persons convicted of A felonies owning firearms? What about a convicted sex offender running a daycare?

Anhydrous ammonia is also used to make this very dangerous drug. I can still purchase it by the thousand gallon tank. I believe that ether is also a common precursor. Just picked up a case of it the other day. Why stop with just regulating one component? I was just in the courthouse a few weeks ago when the lady that works in the recorders office came in all p'd off and sick as a dog. It seems that her husband and 7 kids had been ill at the beginning of the month, and now at the end of the month, she was over her limit. I guess she was really smurfing, cause we all know it is an undisputable fact that that's the only reason to buy an "insane amount" of sudafed. If you stopped every "mom and pop" meth lab in the U.S. , it still would not stop folks from using. You know why? Cause the freakin Mexican cartels make it in 1000 pound batches in modern pharma type facilities across the border. It's more potent,it's more pure,they deliver more volume, and sell it for less.

(and yes , making sudafed a prescription drug means your insurance will pay for it. and all our insurance premiums will go up to reflect that added benefit)

 

[jsharmon7]

And you know why the Mexican cartels are making it? Because it's getting to be so hard to do it here for the "little guys." Meth lab busts are way down, and a lot of it has to do with the aggresive tactics to stop it. Absolutely not perfect but it's helping. It's going to be here either way so at least make it come from Mexico where they can poison people, litter the roads with hazardous material, and blow up houses making it.

I think the whole drug war is a mess. Drug problems won't be stopped by our current tactics, and legalizing everything would be even worse. There are a lot of idealists on this website who have no idea how things really work. As Glock18FA pointed out, they would still be out stealing even if it were legal. It doesn't have as much to do with legal/illegal as it does with the addictions associated with some drugs. Alcohol has nothing on crack or meth. The problem is that there is no answer to the drug problem. There is always going to be a demand and therefore always a supply. When you have demand and usage then the side effects on society will be present.

And no, America was never intended to be a free-for-all, even the beloved founding fathers put the smack down on some people who didn't want to pay their sin taxes. It never was that way, was never intended to be that way, and never will be that way no matter how much you cry about it. We are guaranteed certain rights and they must be protected, but you can't just do whatever you want.

 

[jeremy]

You have no idea what freedom really is or what it cost.

I have a REALLY, REALLY good idea exactly how much freedom costs. DO you?! I can also tell you the price of Tyranny from experience...

By the way Nigeria is a really poor representation of a free Country, try somewhere else.

Your acting like not being able to by INSANE amount of a product used to make a very dangerous drug is the same thing as the man kicking in your door and raiding your home.

I bet I could look through your home and find all the items needed to make a IED or a WMD. Does that make you a Criminal or a Terrorist?!

Yes there could be someone needing to provide cold medication for an entire army that will be turned away. The law was made to better the whole. How do you feel about persons convicted of A felonies owning firearms? What about a convicted sex offender running a daycare?

I have no problem at all with either of these, after the debt is paid.

No one is completely free. In society's with no government the strong rule the week. We are in fact....or at least used to be a self regulating society. Rules are made by the majority for the majority. Some argue all things are pretty much controlled by the elite 1% of the population.

Close again, however you are still just a little bit off from reality. The Minority make the laws for the Majority...

And since you brought it up why did we ever quit being self reliant?!

 

[jeremy]

I own most of these things ... am I a meth head ?
Duncan

I have read some of your posts...
Do I really need to comment on this question?!

 

[trnsplntfrmohio]

rep sir for wanting to execute druggies. I've been saying that for years, kill the druggies, kill the deals, and soon the idea of doing drugs or selling them would become so terrible no one would want to take the risk. And as another + we decrease the population of people who sooner or later would be drawing off out tax dollars. Either because they can't hold down a job and get welfare or because they wind up in prison. It's not like there is an over flow of jobs out there waiting to be filled. Kill the druggies and then if they had a job it could go to someone who lives a clean life.

And yet another + would be more revenue for people who do cremations.

drug addicts need to be put in to rehab. drug dealers/manufactures need to be put into federal prison.

 

[ghostinthewood]

And you know why the Mexican cartels are making it? Because it's getting to be so hard to do it here for the "little guys." Meth lab busts are way down, and a lot of it has to do with the aggresive tactics to stop it. Absolutely not perfect but it's helping. It's going to be here either way so at least make it come from Mexico where they can poison people, litter the roads with hazardous material, and blow up houses making it.

I think the whole drug war is a mess. Drug problems won't be stopped by our current tactics, and legalizing everything would be even worse. There are a lot of idealists on this website who have no idea how things really work. As Glock18FA pointed out, they would still be out stealing even if it were legal. It doesn't have as much to do with legal/illegal as it does with the addictions associated with some drugs. Alcohol has nothing on crack or meth. The problem is that there is no answer to the drug problem. There is always going to be a demand and therefore always a supply. When you have demand and usage then the side effects on society will be present.

And no, America was never intended to be a free-for-all, even the beloved founding fathers put the smack down on some people who didn't want to pay their sin taxes. It never was that way, was never intended to be that way, and never will be that way no matter how much you cry about it. We are guaranteed certain rights and they must be protected, but you can't just do whatever you want.

Eh, I think that is relative to where you're at. Some 88's and MS13's tried to get a hold of the meth here, but because most of the users have something to do with the cooking, its hard to take out dealers. Everyone is self-sufficient. May be easier around here though. Lots of farms and old people so theres your drugs and anhydrous =p