More down range photographer

[shooter521]

IMO, this is grandstanding on the part of TR to increase online "buzz" for marketing purposes, and nothing more. If they really wanted to teach their students mental and muzzle awareness in this way, they'd put an instructor next to EVERY target on EVERY evolution.

 

[TheAutomator]

This conversation never gets old.

 

[CPT Nervous]

Find me an example of a downrange photographer who has been killed. Go ahead. I'll wait right here...


I don't see any danger in this. Some people are just too uptight about firearms safety, and any straying outside of the sacred Four Rules is just blasphemous to them.

I take a looser approach to gun safety, and I have never put myself or anyone else in danger. I understand the mechanics of the guns I deal with, and I trust them only to the extent that I understand them. I have demonstrated to many people ignorant of firearms that most guns will not fire unless you pull the trigger. I have thrown my loaded Glock down the stairs to prove this to a friend. I was chastised for that, too.

Grow up.

 

[printcraft]

Find me an example of a downrange photographer who has been killed. Go ahead. I'll wait right here...


I don't see any danger in this. Some people are just too uptight about firearms safety, and any straying outside of the sacred Four Rules is just blasphemous to them.

I take a looser approach to gun safety, and I have never put myself or anyone else in danger. I understand the mechanics of the guns I deal with, and I trust them only to the extent that I understand them. I have demonstrated to many people ignorant of firearms that most guns will not fire unless you pull the trigger. I have thrown my loaded Glock down the stairs to prove this to a friend. I was chastised for that, too.

Grow up.

Yes, and I was one of the chastisers.............

I like you, but that is still a horrible idea. :P
Stop it.

As far as the downrange photographers..........
"Hey y'all, hold my beer while I take this here picture."
Epic stupidity.
The devil is waiting for a chance to bite your ass, don't raise the odds of a bite.

 

[CPT Nervous]

Yes, and I was one of the chastisers.............

I like you, but that is still a horrible idea. :P
Stop it.

As far as the downrange photographers..........
"Hey y'all, hold my beer while I take this here picture."
Epic stupidity.
The devil is waiting for a chance to bite your ass, don't raise the odds of a bite.

I like you, too.

So, did you find me an example of a downrange photographer being shot?

 

[j706]

Heck the one guy in the vid is shooting a .22 lr AR15.

 

[Trigger Time]

I simply dont care what other people do with their own lives. How about we mind our own business? If the guy downrange is good then im good.

 

[nighthawk80]

Find me an example of a downrange photographer who has been killed. Go ahead. I'll wait right here...


I don't see any danger in this. Some people are just too uptight about firearms safety, and any straying outside of the sacred Four Rules is just blasphemous to them.

I take a looser approach to gun safety, and I have never put myself or anyone else in danger. I understand the mechanics of the guns I deal with, and I trust them only to the extent that I understand them. I have demonstrated to many people ignorant of firearms that most guns will not fire unless you pull the trigger. I have thrown my loaded Glock down the stairs to prove this to a friend. I was chastised for that, too.

Grow up.

Wow, really?
I never knew someone could be too uptight with safety, let alone firearm safety. It doesn't matter if a down range photographer has or has not been injured before. It's like standing in the middle of the interstate. Just because you having been hit, still don't make it a good idea.

As for throwing a loaded gun down the steps to prove that it wont fire, it did put you and your friend in grave danger. Mechanical things can and will fail, no matter how well designed they are. Just because something was designed not to fire when dropped, still does not make it a good idea. What would you of done if the gun did go off? Would you still felt justified in proving your point? Hence the 4 rules. That is the whole reason for the 4 rules. And yes anything outside of the 4 rules is blasphemous.

 

[ghitch75]

and i got made fun of for bad grammar!!!!......the people that own and run this site say it's ok for someone with a camera to stand down range when shooting?......for what a pic???....i guess you haven't seen a shot chronograph?.....then you say i didn't mean to shoot that......i just can't believe what i'm seeing here!!!!!!!.......get a tri-pod and a remote clicker.....

oh btw takin' shots pass someones head for a pic is not GROWN UP AT ALL......JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HICKMAN]

all guns should be Glocks...

 

[Que]

This topic is brought us a lot and I understand why. It IS dangerous for a man to voluntarily position himself down range in order to get a photograph. It is also dangerous to unload and load a gun and I would bet that most people who constantly point out the dangers of everything do not own sand barrels and use them EVERY TIME they load and unload their gun.

I'm not sure if the picture allows proper perspective of what is actually taking place. When we were down there, Jay did not stand downrange when we were shooting beyond a few feet. We were very close and I would estimate five feet or closer. At no time was the gun pointed directly at him, but yes, it was pointed in his direction. Still, there is no doubt this was a dangerous act.

 

[ghitch75]

he thinks it ok too!!!!!!......you people pay this guy?.......i just don't get it?????

[video=youtube;1R3t0wuLDWQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1R3t0wuLDWQ[/video]

 

[CPT Nervous]

Wow, really?
I never knew someone could be too uptight with safety, let alone firearm safety. It doesn't matter if a down range photographer has or has not been injured before. It's like standing in the middle of the interstate. Just because you having been hit, still don't make it a good idea.

As for throwing a loaded gun down the steps to prove that it wont fire, it did put you and your friend in grave danger. Mechanical things can and will fail, no matter how well designed they are. Just because something was designed not to fire when dropped, still does not make it a good idea. What would you of done if the gun did go off? Would you still felt justified in proving your point? Hence the 4 rules. That is the whole reason for the 4 rules. And yes anything outside of the 4 rules is blasphemous.

It wouldn't have fired. Even if something would fail, it wouldn't fire. You can't convince me otherwise.

Standing in the middle of the interstate is dangerous. I can prove that. You cannot prove that downrange photography is dangerous.

I'm still waiting on an example of a downrange photographer being shot.

 

[chezuki]

I'm still waiting on an example of a downrange photographer being shot.

http://972mag.com/photos-palestinian-photographer-shot-in-the-face-by-israeli-troops/68897/

Egyptian Photographer Ahmed Assem Shot By Sniper And Films His Own Death (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

While likely not what you're looking for, it stands to reason that anyone who has ever been shot in the history of people being shot, was in fact down range of the muzzle from where the shot originated. Photographers included.


With that said, I don't personally have a problem with the way this is done in the controlled environment at TR.

 

[gstanley102]

This is just STUPID!!!!
Who is training what??

 

[nighthawk80]

It wouldn't have fired. Even if something would fail, it wouldn't fire. You can't convince me otherwise.

Standing in the middle of the interstate is dangerous. I can prove that. You cannot prove that downrange photography is dangerous.

I'm still waiting on an example of a downrange photographer being shot.

Well, I must of miss understood that when someone is shot, they are "downrange" of the gun. I guess I need to go re-read the physics and trigonometry books to see where I get my misinformation. But till then, I'll stick with everyone behind the firing line just to make sure.

And I'll make sure I'm not at any range in which your shooting at. Since it's perfectly safe to throw a loaded gun and stand down range.

Been there, done that, don't plan on doing it again.

 

[ghitch75]

I'm still waiting on an example of a downrange photographer being shot.

how many other idiots are out there than the guy in the pic doing the photo shoot?......his number just hasn't been pulled yet?....he keeps it up and it will....

 

[HICKMAN]

how many other idiots are out there than the guy in the pic doing the photo shoot?......his number just hasn't been pulled yet?....he keeps it up and it will....

wouldn't he have to be in front of someone's muzzle?

 

[Clay]

and on top of all that........ the guy was actually using TAPCO mags in that rifle. Pure fail.

 

[ghitch75]

wouldn't he have to be in front of someone's muzzle?

he sure was.....looked like about 10 or 15 of them........just as i said number hasn't been punched yet.......just a matter of time you play in the road you will get hit........would you be out there taking pic's?