Mixing alcohol and gunpowder (thread split)

[SavageEagle]

Surely you do not suggest that armed men (and to stay on topic, armed men who are open-carrying!) should be consuming alcohol!? I will not be your designated shooter, either!


Blessings,
Bill

I see nothing wrong with the Spartans open carrying and drinking. I wouldn't be the one to tell them they can't!

Also, I've open carried while drinking. But I never get drunk. Only when I do plan on more than one beer or shot do I put it away.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I see nothing wrong with the Spartans open carrying and drinking. I wouldn't be the one to tell them they can't!

Also, I've open carried while drinking. But I never get drunk. Only when I do plan on more than one beer or shot do I put it away.

I'm not going to be the one to tell anyone s/he can't carry, openly or concealed. I have my opinions on whether or not they should do so, but having an opinion does not equate to the power to make rules for others.

Further, I know the discussion has been had here regarding "how much is too much?" and that the point has been raised that any alcohol in your system at the time of a SD shooting is going to be used against you by an overzealous prosecutor, presuming you have one, despite the absence of law specifying a "legal limit". How do you justify (to yourself) the risk you take in combining alcohol and firearms?

Is it that you have to be alive to be tried?
The fact that there is no law criminalizing that?
The idea that you "can handle it"?
or something else entirely?

If this goes too far into a threadjack from a threadjack thread , I'll split it to it's own.

Thanks for the reply!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Beau]

I'm not going to be the one to tell anyone s/he can't carry, openly or concealed. I have my opinions on whether or not they should do so, but having an opinion does not equate to the power to make rules for others.

Further, I know the discussion has been had here regarding "how much is too much?" and that the point has been raised that any alcohol in your system at the time of a SD shooting is going to be used against you by an overzealous prosecutor, presuming you have one, despite the absence of law specifying a "legal limit". How do you justify (to yourself) the risk you take in combining alcohol and firearms?

Is it that you have to be alive to be tried?
The fact that there is no law criminalizing that?
The idea that you "can handle it"?
or something else entirely?

If this goes too far into a threadjack from a threadjack thread , I'll split it to it's own.

Thanks for the reply!

Blessings,
Bill

I'll go with have to be alive to be tried.

Personally I think it is up to the indivdual to know their limits. For me drinking in public with my firearm is not a bigh deal because I would not drink so much as to become intoxicated in public anyway.

 

[SavageEagle]

I'm not going to be the one to tell anyone s/he can't carry, openly or concealed. I have my opinions on whether or not they should do so, but having an opinion does not equate to the power to make rules for others.

Further, I know the discussion has been had here regarding "how much is too much?" and that the point has been raised that any alcohol in your system at the time of a SD shooting is going to be used against you by an overzealous prosecutor, presuming you have one, despite the absence of law specifying a "legal limit". How do you justify (to yourself) the risk you take in combining alcohol and firearms?

Is it that you have to be alive to be tried?
The fact that there is no law criminalizing that?
The idea that you "can handle it"?
or something else entirely?

If this goes too far into a threadjack from a threadjack thread , I'll split it to it's own.

Thanks for the reply!

Blessings,
Bill

I'll go with have to be alive to be tried.

Personally I think it is up to the indivdual to know their limits. For me drinking in public with my firearm is not a bigh deal because I would not drink so much as to become intoxicated in public anyway.

Bill, This ^. Just because I happen to be at a bar doesn't mean I shouldn't have the means to protect my drunken friends/self. I hardly ever go to bars but when I do, I never drink more than a couple beers or shots. If I do, I leave it at home or in the car.

I understand the risk in getting into a SD shooting intoxicated, but I also adhere to the strict policy of not ever drawing unless my life or someone else's life is CLEARLY threatened. A beat down is not one of those times. OTOH, if I'm at a bar, it's one of the very few times I'm carrying concealed and being more polite than I normally would.

Not that I"m not always polite, but I become overly polite because I know how drunks can be.

 

[6birds]

I pray that the walk goes well on the 26th. If, heaven forbid, something does happen or go wrong, you better hope the press don't read your last post about "doesn't mean I shouldn't have the means to protect my drunken friends/self."

 

[SavageEagle]

I pray that the walk goes well on the 26th. If, heaven forbid, something does happen or go wrong, you better hope the press don't read your last post about "doesn't mean I shouldn't have the means to protect my drunken friends/self."

Now wait just a minute. What's the problem with that? Especially if I'm not drinking, what's wrong with me wanting to protect myself or my friends? Even if I've only got a single beer in me, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to protect myself from someone trying to kill me.

So heaven forbid the media reads anything we post here on INGO. Lord knows they'd twist everything we say here to fit their needs anyway.

 

[6birds]

I didn't post to get your attention, I know you won't get it. I posted so others can learn.

-Dobroyu ootro

 

[SavageEagle]

I didn't post to get your attention, I know you won't get it. I posted so others can learn.

-Dobroyu ootro

Learn what? Learn you are childish?

BTW...

It's long past afternoon.

 

[dburkhead]

Dobroyu ootro

Evening, not morning, and the transliteration scheme is atrocious. You want добрый вечер.

(Former 20833A, the AF has changed the classification system, now it looks like it would be a 1N333A--although these days mostly when I try to come up with Russian it comes out Japanese.)

 

[GuyRelford]

Evening, not morning, and the transliteration scheme is atrocious. You want добрый вечер.

(Former 20833A, the AF has changed the classification system, now it looks like it would be a 1N333A--although these days mostly when I try to come up with Russian it comes out Japanese.)

Multi-lingual rocks.

 

[SavageEagle]

Evening, not morning, and the transliteration scheme is atrocious. You want добрый вечер.

(Former 20833A, the AF has changed the classification system, now it looks like it would be a 1N333A--although these days mostly when I try to come up with Russian it comes out Japanese.)

I ran it through three translators and came up with afternoon...

 

[public servant]

I ran it through three translators and came up with afternoon...

See? You're so drunk you can't even tell what time it is. Sorry...if you're drinking the gun needs to be somewhere else. Merely my opinion. I won't change your mind and you won't change mine. That's why I drink at home.

 

[SavageEagle]

That's why I drink at home.

As do I almost everytime. Which is to say twice a month. Maybe. Sometimes more. I don't like drinking. I don't like the feeling of being drunk let alone buzzed. You can't control yourself when you're drunk, and you become sloppy and slow when you're buzzed.

 

[USMC_0311]

Besides empty beer bottles make good targets and emptying then makes them more challengeing to hit.

 

[ATM]

splitting topic to new thread

If this goes too far into a threadjack from a threadjack thread , I'll split it to it's own.

My opinion would be to split this topic to a new thread starting with the post you quoted here.

Just my . Carry on!



ETA: Thanks, BoR!

 

[public servant]

If you drink while carrying...it's a disaster in the making. You're playing with something that could turn and bite you in the rump. To me personally, it wouldn't be worth the potential of spending time in prison. And do you not think that an attorney wouldn't jump on the fact if he's hired by the family of the guy you shot while drinking?

Any bartender that serves you knowing you're carrying is also setting themselves up to be included in the potential lawsuit. As does the owner of the bar that employees the bartender that serves you.

It's just personal opinion. Whether you do or not is entirely up to you. I just don't feel it's worth the risk.

They close the bars when you vote...but you can carry a gun into nearly any bar and drink. Crazy... IMO

Hell...if there's a time to need a drink it's at election time.

 

[Shay]

Drinking and carrying shows bad judgment.

 

[Bigum1969]

I've said it before on other threads, but I don't feel drinking and firearms belong together. Just as I don't feel drinking and driving belong together either.

It's pretty easy for me because I almost never drink.

Personally, I think getting to the point of being drunk is not the wisest thing. But I guess that's just me.

 

[Bigum1969]

As do I almost everytime. Which is to say twice a month. Maybe. Sometimes more. I don't like drinking. I don't like the feeling of being drunk let alone buzzed. You can't control yourself when you're drunk, and you become sloppy and slow when you're buzzed.

Then why do you drink?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I have said before that I don't feel for myself alcohol and guns mix. But I'll qualify that a bit, if I'm going out to a bar with a DD where I may get intoxicated I won't be carrying, but if I'm out with the family having dinner, and feel like having a drink with dinner, the fact that I'm carrying won't effect that. Or if I'm at family or a friends house and they offer me a beer, I'll accept 1, maybe even 2 if it goes beyond that good chance it will be coming off and getting put up.

Hell...if there's a time to need a drink it's at election time.

Agreed