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  • edporch

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    As one who believes life begins at conception, and as one who was adopted at birth (and could've been aborted) I do have an interest in the issue.

    On the subject of abortion, as long as it took to finally return the issue to the states where it constitutionally belongs, the federal government shouldn't try to push their way into the issue.

    Which is why Presidential candidates shouldn't push too hard to get the President or the federal government involved in it.

    And if the federal government ever pushes it's way into the issue, there's a fair chance the left will get a hold of it and pass a federal law mandating it up to the point of birth EVERYWHERE.
    Which will be MUCH worse than having a few states that do that.
     
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    The time to do that has long passed. We are stick on the horse we are riding. So at a point the left has control of everything we split the only source of power to hold any of this back? The dems have 50% of the country, RINO’s have 30%, rock rib conservatives have 20%, who the heck do you think the dems will partner with? Yep, it will be 80% vs. 20% just look at the voting records of our elected officials.

    In what parallel universe would the RINO’s stick with the conservatives?
    So the answer is for conservatives to continue to compromise and give the controlling rinos what they want? If that’s the best that can be done, then we really have no need to vote conservatives into office. A party full of rinos will give us the same outcome. Again the idea of slow walking left is preferred over standing tall and saying no more. We move right or we don’t move.
     

    Ingomike

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    So the answer is for conservatives to continue to compromise and give the controlling rinos what they want? If that’s the best that can be done, then we really have no need to vote conservatives into office. A party full of rinos will give us the same outcome. Again the idea of slow walking left is preferred over standing tall and saying no more. We move right or we don’t move.
    The answer is for conservatives to get off their lazy butts and convince othered to join them. If that cannot be done now then when could it ever be done?

    But quite a few conservatives I know just will not acknowledge the reality that conservatives are a small part of the electorate and we must grow that to do anything…
     

    jamil

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    The answer is for conservatives to get off their lazy butts and convince othered to join them. If that cannot be done now then when could it ever be done?

    But quite a few conservatives I know just will not acknowledge the reality that conservatives are a small part of the electorate and we must grow that to do anything…
    The party is still owned by establishment neocons. That's the world the populist Republicans have to work in. If you want to change that the chamber-o-commerce neocon Republicans need to get replaced.
     

    Ingomike

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    The party is still owned by establishment neocons. That's the world the populist Republicans have to work in. If you want to change that the chamber-o-commerce neocon Republicans need to get replaced.
    Yep, hence my point that conservatives need to get to work to change that. That includes growing the group, getting candidates on the ballot and getting those candidates elected. Not complaining on the web…
     

    jwamplerusa

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    Conservatives best option is to move to a new party. Let the GOP be what they want to be and move the conservatives to a group of like minded politicians. Of course the rinos will cry that conservatives are dooming the country to communism all the while they refuse to compromise as conservatives have been expected to do for decades.
    The better choice is to take over and remake the GOP into the party of the Constitution. Start at the Precinct Committee level, and work up. If there are to be purity tests, let it be compliance with the Constitution.
     

    Ingomike

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    What a yuge surprise. He was pro abortion before he was anti abortion before he was pro abortion.
    So the republicans get shellacked in the last election over abortion, so to combat that the unequivocal best president we have had in our lifetimes on abortion equivocates to neutralize the issue and TDS fever consumes…
     

    BugI02

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    Democrats would suggest and likely support that solely because it would be even more damaging to the Republican Party than the disagreements over methods and direction that underpin the wrangling around the speaker position

    I suspect the Dems/White House don't want a clean appropriations bill on Ukraine aid or any other controversial spending put to an up or down vote because they believe they would lose that vote. That is behind the current moves to bundle Ukraine, Israel and token border security aid in the same bill - the same old horse trading strategy we're trying to end
     

    Ingomike

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    Paging @Leadeye. Follow the money.


    “Rep. Austin Scott calls on Congress to get a ‘speaker seated’ so House Republicans to get things done. The Georgia Congressman says, “let's not forget that we should not be in this position, eight Republicans voted with 208 Democrats. Kevin McCarthy is the largest fundraiser we have ever had for House Republicans. We need him. It has been it is now 12 months from the next elections and we have to get a speaker seated, we have to get some things done. And no matter how much money you raise, if you're not able to run the house, you're not going to win elections. And so we both need to get a speaker seated, who can can run the house and can actually go out there and campaign for people and help us win some more seats because a five seat majority is non-governing majority.”


    As @jamil says they are mostly worried about that CoC money…

     

    oze

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    No, No, I heard on INGO it was a temper tantrum…
    Just to summarize, it was fine and dandy when a handful of Republican congressmen voted against McCarthy when he was the nominee, but when a bigger handful oppose Jordan, it's heresy. Is that a correct interpretation of the Speaker of the House election fiasco?
     
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