Mark Levin rips GOP establishment

[rambone]

Its cute when the GOP Establishment talks tough on itself.

 

[88GT]

I find it hard to believe we we listening to,the same show

You're not. His version is pro-Republican if it isn't absolutely anti-Republican in every sense.

I don't. Everyone listens with ears filtered by their own personal and political bias. You chose to ignore the constant rhetoric and focused on his core beliefs, which I have said, are sound. I listened to it all.

That's quite a statement unless you're married to him or have served as his shrink in the recent past.

LOL, I don't ignore it. I see it for what it is. One guy's opinions who, in the face of 3 equally distasteful options, decides to pick the one that has the greatest possible results with the least negative results.

Doesn't make him a shill. Doesn't make him a poser. Doesn't make him anything but someone who prioritizes the options and their consequences/likelihood different than you.

Lots of talk of personal freedom but woe to the individual who doesn't do/say what you want, huh?

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

Lots of talk of personal freedom but woe to the individual who doesn't do/say what you want, huh?

Umm, isn't part of exercising your freedom being responsible for what you do? Or are we only truly supporters of personal freedom if we also support 100% of how everyone exercises their freedom? I saw no one here suggest Levin be arrested or otherwise have his rights removed.

I'm not saying you have to, but you might want to consider finding a different straw man.

 

[rambone]

Mark Levin had 2 candidates on his GOP Primary ballot in Virginia. Romney and Ron Paul. He chose Romney.

He'd rather vote for an east coast progressive, gun-hating, unreliable, flip-flopping, socialist piece of trash... than support the most constitutional candidate we've seen in generations.

All Primary season, if someone called to talk about Ron Paul he would freak out, call them names, and hang up on them. What a sad joke that the guy who writes a book called "Liberty and Tyranny" despises every mention of Ron Paul.

I've heard him verbally support the Patriot Act and federal prohibition, and he loves global war. You see, big, expensive, unconstitutional government isn't so bad if it makes him feel cozy and secure. He's a mass manipulator of conservatives to bring them to the neo-con ideology, and keeping them under the Establishment's thumb when it counts.

 

[hornadylnl]

Its fun to hear them backpedaling now. Now that the crap sandwich lost, they can tell us what they "really thought" about them and how unconservative and unprincipaled they were. That is, until next election cycle when they once again start supporting whomever has the "R" next to thier name.
You know he was calling Mike Church a "neo-confederate" for not jumping on the bandwagon.

This, a 1000 times this.

What good are these staunch conservative positions if he's going to sell them to the establishment whore of the day? I used to listen to Rush, Hannity, Levin, Wilkow, and others. The only one I can stomach any more is Mike Church. They all like to preach their conservative principles and they have a large audience to affect change in the repub party. Instead, they just fall in line with the nominee given us. I believe Church stated her rather have Romney than Obama but he wasn't going to try to shove him down others throats.

 

[hornadylnl]

Mark Levin had 2 candidates on his GOP Primary ballot in Virginia. Romney and Ron Paul. He chose Romney.

He'd rather vote for an east coast progressive, gun-hating, unreliable, flip-flopping, socialist piece of trash... than support the most constitutional candidate we've seen in generations.

All Primary season, if someone called to talk about Ron Paul he would freak out, call them names, and hang up on them. What a sad joke that the guy who writes a book called "Liberty and Tyranny" despises every mention of Ron Paul.

I've heard him verbally support the Patriot Act and federal prohibition, and he loves global war. You see, big, expensive, unconstitutional government isn't so bad if it makes him feel cozy and secure. He's a mass manipulator of conservatives to bring them to the neo-con ideology, and keeping them under the Establishment's thumb when it counts.

Oh, and this as well.

I had Levin on xm on the way home from voting. Mourdock was on with him begging people to vote against Harry Reid and vote for him. He was telling us he's a constitutional constructionist. I wanted to call in and how that squares with his defense of SS and MC. Just pandering for votes I'm sure.

 

[rambone]

Levin is right on some issues, don't get me wrong. But he is dead wrong on many others. There are some issues that he is more statist than the average Democrat.

Someone called in about the unconstitutional spying via the Patriot Act, and his reaction was fierce. "Name one person who's had their rights violated by the Patriot Act!! I want a name!! You can't do it, can you?!" (*click*)

His show is some truth laced with statist deception.

This is packaged up and called "conservatism."

 

[Stschil]

You're not. His version is pro-Republican if it isn't absolutely anti-Republican in every sense.


That's quite a statement unless you're married to him or have served as his shrink in the recent past.

LOL, I don't ignore it. I see it for what it is. One guy's opinions who, in the face of 3 equally distasteful options, decides to pick the one that has the greatest possible results with the least negative results.

Doesn't make him a shill. Doesn't make him a poser. Doesn't make him anything but someone who prioritizes the options and their consequences/likelihood different than you.

Lots of talk of personal freedom but woe to the individual who doesn't do/say what you want, huh?

Have I pissed in your Wheaties in a passed life or something?

If Levin and the other talking heads had been pounding on desks, screaming the same message 3 or even two years ago, the RNC might have looked elsewhere.
Instead, we got it for a little bit the same after McCain lost and back business. Ever listen to them one after another? They pass talking points around just as the MSM does. It's a machine, it's business, it's money, then politics in that order IMHO.

Am I jaded?, probably. Do listen to it like I stated people do? Damned right.
Do I jump on people because they don't have my view, nope. However, I will state my opinion and the reasons why I have them.

 

[chraland51]

Mr. Levin does often get pretty rude to those that do not agree with everything he says. I have even heard him get rude, as does Dr. Savage, to those in complete agreement with his position if they do not quickly get their points across. However, I pretty much agree with what both of them have to say on just about every topic.

Mitt Romney was not my first choice during the primaries. He was probably my fourth choice with Michelle Bachmann being the first of those allowed to participate by the RNC or whatever group controls the selection of candidates. With that being said, when Mr. Romney was forced down our throats by the repukelican establishment, I personally had no choice, but to give him my vote as I would vote for nearly anyone else but O'Bummer and his excessively poor track record. I really feel that this guy will change our country into something that we do not recognize and will no longer be happy to live in. Just look at what started taking place almost immediately after he was declared the winner--UN Small Arms Treaty that will eventually get around to the confiscation of our guns, Feinstein starting up on her gun control agenda, Puerto Rico as the 51st State and their 100% democrapic votes, 2 democrapic senators and one democrapic representative and one more place to redistribute mine and your wealth that most of us get up and go to work for every day. The moslems were mostly happy with his election---I wonder why! Putin is waiting to see just how much more flexible O'Bummer can be towards him and a strengthening Russia looking to regain the old USSR. I doubt if he will move much toward the middle even without control of the house as he knows that some of the RINOs will peel off and vote for his agenda. I really worry about the path that this country is taking. Chris Matthews probably peed himself with the thrills that ran up and down his legs as was probably the case with all of the other lamestream media.

I just think that we are in a lot of trouble as a nation. Move over Greece. Our republic has died just like yours did so long ago.

 

[rambone]

If Levin and the other talking heads had been pounding on desks, screaming the same message 3 or even two years ago, the RNC might have looked elsewhere. Instead, we got it for a little bit the same after McCain lost and back business.

+100

Ever listen to them one after another? They pass talking points around just as the MSM does. It's a machine, it's business, it's money, then politics in that order IMHO.

Their talking points are so synchronized it is amazing. I listened to the Establishment pundits heavily during the GOP Primary. They simultaneously went from utter silence on Ron Paul, to rabid attacks, and then back to silence once the threat was neutralized.

And most people don't know they are listening directly to the Machine. Pro-Wrestling is less scripted than these guys' talking points.

 

[Expat]

Umm, isn't part of exercising your freedom being responsible for what you do? Or are we only truly supporters of personal freedom if we also support 100% of how everyone exercises their freedom? I saw no one here suggest Levin be arrested or otherwise have his rights removed.

I'm not saying you have to, but you might want to consider finding a different straw man.

I read it twice, where did she say anything about arrests or removing rights?

 

[TheRude1]

I dont think Mark swings from anyones nut sack

And he rips the GOP all the time and once again I would say he has hit the nail on the head

 

[Expat]

If Levin and the other talking heads had been pounding on desks, screaming the same message 3 or even two years ago, the RNC might have looked elsewhere.
Instead, we got it for a little bit the same after McCain lost and back business.

I remember Levin being adamantly against Romney from the start of the primaries. He said many times that he was nearly his last choice out of the field.

 

[edporch]

Quote:
Originally Posted by nascarfantoo
Mark Liven has been very open, speaking his mind about conservatism and those beliefs. I am able to listen to him 3-4 times a week. He is one of the few I get to hear that does not pull punches.

And yet, he sent the last 4 months propping up Romney, spinning like a top, just like the rest of them.

If you listened to Levin for the entire election cycle, he was not a Romney supporter.

BUT he said that ALL ALONG in the end, when the nominee was chosen, he would support them as the ONLY realistic chance to win the election.

I don't call that spinning, but instead a valid strategy that reasonable people can differ as to whether it's the best or not.

I personally voted for Gary Johnson, knowing that Obama would lose to Romney in INDIANA.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

I read it twice, where did she say anything about arrests or removing rights?

She didn't. She was implying that people who are pro personal freedom are hypocritical for criticizing Mark Levin for what he says. I would suggest that you read what I said a second time... It should clear things up.

 

[Stschil]

If you listened to Levin for the entire election cycle, he was not a Romney supporter.

BUT he said that ALL ALONG in the end, when the nominee was chosen, he would support them as the ONLY realistic chance to win the election.

I don't call that spinning, but instead a valid strategy that reasonable people can differ as to whether it's the best or not.

I personally voted for Gary Johnson, knowing that Obama would lose to Romney in INDIANA.

I can only listen on and off, due to work schedules and yes, he was NOT a Romney supporter in the beginning. So I'll revise my statement a bit.

Maybe he wasn't spinning for Romney, maybe just for the RNC. But spinning it was, either that or his latest rant is spin. One is, but which one?

He rails on the RNC for putting up a weak candidate, offers all the negatives etc.
I believe this what he stands for, so what happened the last 2 or 3 years?

I've been listening to Rush for nearly 15 years, Levin less, about 5, Garrison about 10. They roll with what the RNC puts up because it keeps their audience. With no audience, the networks won't keep them on. If the networks don't keep them on, no advertising. No syndication, no $$$. As Rush says.....Follow the money. ;-)

That is what disgusts me, and that's why I said earlier "It's a machine, it's business, it's money, then politics, in that order.

I like these guys, listen to them As often I can, but I realize that they are entertainers first. They do what they have to do to stay in business, and if that means play footsie with the RNC because that's their base, that's what happens.

 

[edporch]

I can only listen on and off, due to work schedules and yes, he was NOT a Romney supporter in the beginning. So I'll revise my statement a bit.

Maybe he wasn't spinning for Romney, maybe just for the RNC. But spinning it was, either that or his latest rant is spin. One is, but which one?

He rails on the RNC for putting up a weak candidate, offers all the negatives etc.
I believe this what he stands for, so what happened the last 2 or 3 years?

I've been listening to Rush for nearly 15 years, Levin less, about 5, Garrison about 10. They roll with what the RNC puts up because it keeps their audience. With no audience, the networks won't keep them on. If the networks don't keep them on, no advertising. No syndication, no $$$. As Rush says.....Follow the money. ;-)

That is what disgusts me, and that's why I said earlier "It's a machine, it's business, it's money, then politics, in that order.

I like these guys, listen to them As often I can, but I realize that they are entertainers first. They do what they have to do to stay in business, and if that means play footsie with the RNC because that's their base, that's what happens.

I've listened to him often over the years, and almost nightly this year.
He criticizes the Republican Party often, but believes the road to change is from within the party.
(reasonable people can differ on this)

Levin simply did what he said was the best chance to win.
Pull for WHOEVER the Republican nominee turned out to be.

He believed rightly or wrongly that a 3rd party nominee couldn't win.

 

[foszoe]

I prefer Dennis miller

 

[ATOMonkey]

I prefer Dennis miller

Here! Here!!

 

[Cerberus]

He's been thrashing the Repub establishment for the last 4 years. I listen religiously every day and can assure you he is not under the RNC desks. Iagree with him that as bad as the Repub establishment is they are better than the likes of Reid, Pelosi et al. Just my 2 cents.

I removed his feed from my facebook mainly because I got tired of him ranting against the only non-statist during the primaries. In fact, the majority of his feeds were specifically bashing one, and only one, candidate, Ron Paul.

Let the whiner *****, he is part of the reason we got 2 liberals running for president.