LTCH: Expired... :(

[chezuki]

the plain language of the statute doesn't convey what you are stating.

I agree. Even if it is intended to mean "before" it could be argued due to wording. But as I said, I wouldn't want to be the test case.

 

[24Carat]

It's not so much embarrassing that it lapsed but you first go and mention it on a public forum and secondly you went and mentioned it on this forum !

 

[HotD]

I emailed the ISP Licensing division for clarification...

You should also ask for the citation that supports the clarification.

Otherwise, you're going to get the standard, more restrictive opinion.

 

[92ThoStro]

If you thought it expired in June, does that mean you were going to wait until June 13th to apply for it? Why put it off so long haha.

 

[Roadie]

If you thought it expired in June, does that mean you were going to wait until June 13th to apply for it? Why put it off so long haha.

I was going to do it this week... I was too broke previously..

 

[Roadie]

You should also ask for the citation that supports the clarification.

Otherwise, you're going to get the standard, more restrictive opinion.

I quoted the IC in my email, and asked for clarification on that specific part..

 

[OneBadV8]

I was going to do it this week... I was too broke [STRIKE]previously[/STRIKE]before I became a Mod..

 

[shibumiseeker]

I was going to do it this week... I was too broke previously..

Mod pay isn't what it used to be?

 

[Roadie]

Mod pay isn't what it used to be?

Pay?

 

[MikeDVB]

Mod pay isn't what it used to be?

It's gone up by 3000%... Unfortunately that still leaves it at 0.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

You know good and well that there are plenty of folks here who would have helped with the finances...

 

[Mr. Habib]

I heard that mod pay was replaced by being allowed to run errands for Fenway in the Bugatti.

 

[Roadie]

So freaking pissed at myself.

 

[Roadie]

You know good and well that there are plenty of folks here who would have helped with the finances...

I know, but I had it budgeted for this week, and if I had not been able to afford it before it expired, I probably would have sought help.

Well, before I THOUGHT it expired

 

[MikeDVB]

Good thing you found out on your own and not on the side of the road, in a restaurant, etc...

 

[Roadie]

Good thing you found out on your own and not on the side of the road, in a restaurant, etc...

Indeed. I occasionally OC, and was in a Speedway gas station while a LEO was in there just 3 days ago

 

[MikeDVB]

Indeed. I occasionally OC, and was in a Speedway gas station while a LEO was in there just 3 days ago

With a good lawyer and the way the renewal statute is worded - likely all you'd need is the receipt showing you renewed it and go to court a couple times!!!

 

[Scutter01]

Documentation for it being PRIOR to expiration??

Is there an IAG or judicial opinion, or a specific cite within the legislative intent to support your belief?

I'm not disputing your word, but the plain language of the statute doesn't convey what you are stating.

Documentation for yours? If I'm wrong, then you just can't carry for a few weeks. If you're wrong, then it's a B Misdemeanor (all the way up to a C Felony). I don't want to be the test case.

After its expired, you no longer have a valid license and therefore cannot simply "renew" it. You must apply for a new license.

Agreed. The wording is not clear, though, but I think this was the intent and I think a court would say the same thing.

 

[92ThoStro]

So I guess we do need LEOs to stop and check for LTCHs, we got criminals running around OCing!

Is carrying a handgun without a license considered a misdemeanor breach of peace for citizens arrest purposes??

 

[Scutter01]

So I guess we do need LEOs to stop and check for LTCHs, we got criminals running around OCing!

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Roadie was a criminal already.